Fulcrumfan91 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 So technically we should not talk about TFA sets at all on this thread because the reality is no one has any concrete source on any TFA sets? But to be honest every year this thread posts unsubstantiated rumours or 'speculation' regarding set releases - why should this year be any different? Yep, exactly. Quote
Fuppylodders Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Because this year there is a film out that people would like to know least possible about while keeping up with Lego. That is not contradicting either. Using a little common sense people can get the 'gist' of what rumours are worthy rumours and what are simply speculation or peoples wish lists etc. and therefore, what can and shouldn't be talked about. Every year people break rules, why should this year be any different? Because for once, for this year... that a film is coming out... it would be nice that people actually followed rules. Edited March 16, 2015 by Fuppylodders Quote
Fulcrumfan91 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Using a little common sense people can get the 'gist' of what rumours are worthy rumours and what are simply speculation or peoples wish lists etc. and therefore, what can and shouldn't be talked about. Because for once, for this year... that a film is coming out... it would be nice that people actually followed rules. I completely disagree with you. The 'worthy rumour' doesn't exist. It can't. People will react differently to information being given to them. Case and point, people in the LOTR forums were convinced that lego was releasing a bunch of sets from the films which turned out to be completely false, even though lego could very well have released these sets. Point is a rumour is a rumour, a whisper, we don't know if it's true, we know that someone has said it, so it could be true. Next, the subject that is supposed to be discussed in this forum is that of star wars 2015 set rumours and pictures. We have not seen pictures of these sets. However, some people have posted rumours about what these sets are, will be, will contain. That, to me, is discussing a rumour about something. In the process, character names will be revealed, ships will be revealed, and those will all be spoilers. On a different note, I'm very much looking forward to the summer wave of sets. I think there's a 90 percent chance that we will not see anymore Prequel Trilogy sets after this year, due to the fact that new Star Wars movies will be coming out yearly for the next five years or so. Flash Speeder looks great, I'm annoyed by battle droids, but the other figures are great. They're not new designs per se, but they're still nice to get. The speeder itself looks very well constructed, the design is a tad bit inaccurate, but that's a small nit pick imo. Naboo Starfighter looks slightly improved from the last one we saw in 2011-12, I love the shooting mechanism they've designed for it...I just wish it came with just the ship. Not a fan of all the other stuff that comes with the fighter. Death Star Final Duel is a huge set to avoid, at least for me, considering it's just a play set and the only draw is the minifigures that come with it. I'm not all that impressed with the set itself, but the minifigures are excellent. It's tempting, but I'll gladly avoid this set. Not a fan of play sets. Shuttle Tydirium is the jewel of 2015 for me so far...and all because of what I think it'll be like. There is an interior...which I'm hoping can fit a bunch of figures (3-4 for sure fit inside). The wings look amazing, the build seems to emulate that from Palpatine's Shuttle from EP III, along with the new T-16, both which were super fun to build and look great once built. Can't wait for this set! Imperial Assault Carrier looks ok to me, I won't be getting it because nothing draws me to it. The figures are nice, I just don't like the ship design, which is not lego's fault at all. The TIE UCS is not worth it for me. Too expensive, too few pieces, doesn't look that good in my eyes. Quote
Sir_Basil_Ashton Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Looking back on the earlier posts, other than set numbers, # of pieces, and prices, we know nothing else about these alleged TFA sets. As much as I love Star Wars, I have no interest in knowing more about TFA other than what I've seen in the official trailer. That's my choice for now. The way I see it, this thread is for official rumors of sets, which we don't have at the moment. All anyone is posting right now is speculation and what they think sets will be based on the extremely limited information we have at the moment. I will say some educated guesses can be made with this information but it's all speculation. I personally believe we will get more solid information on TFA sets at SDCC. Until more information is released, hopefully people on this thread can stay on topic. As already mentioned, if you want to speculate, there's a separate thread dedicated to that. Quote
Fuppylodders Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 I completely disagree with your judgement that a 'worthy rumour' doesn't exist. Of course it does, we know that should a rumour come from some previous source that has pretty much always got it right before, it is a worthy rumour. There is nothing wrong with the LOTR rumour thing either, as you correctly said, a rumour is a rumour. But it is very easy for me to suddenly say that TFA has everyone from ROTJ in it, and sets being released are this that and the other. Im not a reliable source for a rumour in general, unless I find a reliable source. I'd be making my own stuff up or listing what I would like to see. That doesn't make a rumour. You are confusing what people have posted rumours of sets are/to be/contain with speculation. I've gone back 18 pages and found the list of aforementioned rumours. There is nothing stating what the sets are/going to be, but only that they contain a certain piece count. That is all, hence your list of what you speculate the sets ot be. And from the website it came from as the source, is quite obviously a 'worthy rumour' source. I could speculate to advance on current rumours, but that is still speculation. This thread doesn't have to have some new info posted on it every single day, it is fine for it to simply exist until something worthy appears. It is also perfectly fine to speculate in the 'Future Star Wars Sets' thread. And when the speculation becomes less speculation, more a rumour with some sort of source, by all means, crack on with bringing it here. But why feel the need that it MUST be speculated in this thread when there is one more dedicated to it?! Quote
Jedi-Bendu Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Because this year there is a film out that people would like to know least possible about while keeping up with Lego. Good luck with that!There's this rumor Domhnall Gleeson is playing Luke's son. Suppose this is true and his minifig is included with the name of his character: Skywalker on the box....then what? Is it forbidden to post an image of the set then? .....If someone wants to be spoiler free: thats fine. But imo it can only be achieved by avoiding ALL Star Wars discussions/sites/forums. Example from 1999: http://coverlib.com/Download/2092963/John_Williams-Star_Wars-Episode_1_The_Phantom_Menace_Soundtrack_Canada-Back.JPG Sometimes the tracklisting of something simple as a CD can be pretty spoilerish.....(track 15) For the rest, I agree with lambda, Darth Punk, ISDAvenger and Renegade Clone. Best thing is to make a special TFA 2015 sets spoiler-thread...because if we discuss it in the Future SW sets thread as suggested the folks over there can complain about spoilers. Edited March 16, 2015 by Jedi-Bendu Quote
Fuppylodders Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Or just talk with the spoiler tag, as people had started doing That is what it is there for, I do not understand why it is abusing it if it is being used for what it is intended? Quote
Jedi-Bendu Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) I've gone back 18 pages and found the list of aforementioned rumours. There is nothing stating what the sets are/going to be, but only that they contain a certain piece count. That is all, hence your list of what you speculate the sets ot be. And from the website it came from as the source, is quite obviously a 'worthy rumour' source. Well.....a while ago JediNews (a pretty good SW site) reported that a source of them at the Toyfair told them that 2 of the 7 TFA sets are the X-WIng and the Falcon (the most expensive set in the TFA wave). So, there's a worthy rumour. Even Just2good reported this! Edited March 16, 2015 by Jedi-Bendu Quote
Fulcrumfan91 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Yep, clearly, we need a new thread specifically for TFA. I agree. Everyone has a different opinion about this subject, so I think that that is likely the best solution. I haven't seen anyone else talking about non-TFA sets on this thread for awhile, so the spoiler tag would just make this discussion useless. We'll have ten people actually reading the posts with tags, which likely will dominate the discussion, while everyone else finds themselves skipping through pages, which can be frustrating in itself. Good luck with that!There's this rumor Spoiler .....If someone wants to be spoiler free: thats fine. But imo it can only be achieved by avoiding ALL Star Wars discussions/sites/forums. Example from 1999: http://coverlib.com/...Canada-Back.JPG Sometimes the tracklisting of something simple as a CD can be pretty spoilerish.....(track 15) I would love to see Gwendoline Christie's character in minifigure form...I'm actually super excited about her character. The TIE in the concept art is fantastic..looks awesome in red. That'll be a super cool set. I think it'll be the second biggest, because it would make more sense for the one after the X-Wing to be Kylo Ren's X-wing or something like that Edited March 16, 2015 by lambda_cla3391 Quote
Darth Punk Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 People should also keep in mind that there are those who would consider the sets themselves to be spoilers. And yes there are rumors to be discussed that are "official" rumors. One cannot discuss a rumor without some amount of speculation otherwise what is there to discuss? There are certainly websites where merely commenting on a rumor is readily available, but I would believe that most of us are here for more than that. Parsing what is rumor or not is not the point of course. The point is the discussion of spoilers which one can see by this page alone varies from person to person. The vast majority of Star Wars sites that I belong to separate spoilers from the mainstream discussion so those who wish to read and discussion spoilers can freely do so. And due to the unique nature of Star Wars I believe that eurobricks should have the same. It's already apparent that some wish to define exactly what should and shouldn't be discussed. This and the talk of rumors, official or otherwise, based on information not had by those not following rumors is why we need a seperste topic. People are going to talk about rumors and spoilers no matter what, this way those who wish to do so can without the constant complaints of them saying too much. And those who wish to wait for official information and limit spoiler discussion and still do so here. It's a win win situation for everyone. Quote
Fulcrumfan91 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 People should also keep in mind that there are those who would consider the sets themselves to be spoilers.And yes there are rumors to be discussed that are "official" rumors. One cannot discuss a rumor without some amount of speculation otherwise what is there to discuss? There are certainly websites where merely commenting on a rumor is readily available, but I would believe that most of us are here for more than that. Parsing what is rumor or not is not the point of course. The point is the discussion of spoilers which one can see by this page alone varies from person to person. The vast majority of Star Wars sites that I belong to separate spoilers from the mainstream discussion so those who wish to read and discussion spoilers can freely do so. And due to the unique nature of Star Wars I believe that eurobricks should have the same. It's already apparent that some wish to define exactly what should and shouldn't be discussed. This and the talk of rumors, official or otherwise, based on information not had by those not following rumors is why we need a seperste topic. People are going to talk about rumors and spoilers no matter what, this way those who wish to do so can without the constant complaints of them saying too much. And those who wish to wait for official information and limit spoiler discussion and still do so here. It's a win win situation for everyone. I 100% agree with you Quote
Sir Gareth Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Plus, this argument is going to continue for another 4 years. With not only EPVII, but R1, EPVIII, EPIX, and the two unnamed spin-offs coming, a seperate thread should be made. I propose a ST/Spin-Off thread for the upcoming movie sets, and a PT/CW/OT/R thread for everything else. Edited March 16, 2015 by Sir Gareth Quote
Fulcrumfan91 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Is the name of one of the spin offs too much of a spoiler btw? It's Rogue One Quote
Sir Gareth Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Is the name of one of the spin offs too much of a spoiler btw? It's Rogue One It's there, just abbreviated Quote
Darth Punk Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Is the name of one of the spin offs too much of a spoiler btw? It's Rogue One I think that would be completely unavoidable unless you lived in middle of no where without outside contact. There are of course already official renderings for the movie. Quote
Fulcrumfan91 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 I think that would be completely unavoidable unless you lived in middle of no where without outside contact.There are of course already official renderings for the movie. Well...just in case. Quote
Brickdoctor Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Okay, firstly, thanks to those who have brought this discussion to my attention. The short answer is that no, we cannot split this topic up into multiple topics according to theme. It would be a nightmare to enforce, and even if we did very strictly enforce separating the discussion by subtheme and using the spoiler tags, that wouldn't stop new members (or members who don't follow the rules) from posting spoilers in the wrong topics, nor would it help you once you'd read one of those spoilers. It's the Internet; unfortunately, it's not possible to completely avoid spoilers, especially when you're reading a discussion about future releases. Additionally, that would require a level of constant staff intervention that wouldn't be enjoyable for anyone. Think about how much trouble we've had in the past just keeping this topic and Future Star Wars Sets properly organized, and then imagine it if this topic was split into two very similar topics. Which brings me to a side point: this is the rumors topic. It's not the wishlist topic. Any of your guesses, your speculation, your wishes, your concepts for any sets, no matter how obvious or likely you think they are, do not belong here. Use this topic to discuss rumors; use Future Star Wars Sets to discuss wishes. (And yes, you could say, "I looked at a source I can't disclose and all these sets on my wishlist are being released," but remember that we keep track of sources, and if you have a history of posting false rumors, then we're going to have to have a chat...don't abuse this topic for your fifteen minutes of Internet fame.) Any spoilers that might show up in this topic should be the result of a rumored set or a TLG announcement, and that seems reasonable to me, considering that this is a topic dedicated to future releases. Of course, if you think something you're posting might be a spoiler and you use spoiler tags on it, I'm sure your fellow members would be appreciative. It's just not something that I think the staff should enforce with separate topics for each subtheme. And remember that if you want to completely avoid all the discussion (which is the only way to be close to sure that you won't read a spoiler), there's always the first post of this topic. Thank you for your understanding! Quote
Artanis I Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 I'm interested in Lego news, I'm not interested in movie plot or character/setting involvement until I've seen the movie. Sadly the set info has the characters & vehicles in it, but that's as far as I'm prepared to go. The title of the film and the Lego sets. And remember that if you want to completely avoid all the discussion (which is the only way to be close to sure that you won't read a spoiler), there's always the first post of this topic. Could we have an announcement or some kind of update flag to let us know if/when the first post is updated? I saw one somewhere on the board that had "updated *date*". Kim T used to have a locked pinned thread that was "all the news with no fuzz" you could just add a new post to that thread when there's new information and we'd know to check it for Lego news. Any of that would be helpful. Quote
Darth Punk Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Star Wars: The Force Awakens 75099 LEGO Star Wars 1 193 pieces. Age 6+ $19.99 (USD) $24.99 (CAD) Available in September 75100 LEGO Star Wars 2 444 pieces. Age 6+ $39.99 (USD) $49.99 (CAD) Available in September 75101 LEGO Star Wars 3 517 pieces. Age 7+ $69.99 (USD) $89.99 (CAD) Available in September 75102 LEGO Star Wars 4 717 pieces. Age 7+ $79.99 (USD) $99.99 (CAD) Available in September 75103 LEGO Star Wars 5 792 pieces. Age 7+ $89.99 (USD) $109.99 (CAD) Available in September 75104 LEGO Star Wars 6 1004 pieces. Age 8+ $119.99 (USD) $149.99 (CAD) Available in September 75105 LEGO Star Wars 7 1332 pieces. Age 8+ $149.99 (USD) $179.99 (CAD) Available in September Some more Infos on TFA sets: 26,99 EUR set will be the "bicycle"-thing from the Trailer 150 EUR will be the MF, nearly the Same as 7965 ?? EUR a really big TIE fighter . I showed here my retailer the pics from 75095, but be Said it was Sommething different, but nearly the same..?! The X-Wing will be grey, black, white. 75099 Lead Hero Craft 26,99 Euro Rey's Speeder ? 75100 Villain Craft 49,99 Euro Imperial Transport ? 75101 Villain Starcraft 69,99 Euro TIE Fighter ? 75102 Hero Starfighter 89,99 Euro X-wing ? 75103 Villain Transport 99,99 Euro TIE Shuttle ? 75104 Lead Villain Vehicle 119,99 Euro Kylo Ren's Cruiser ? 75105 Hero Vehicle 149,99 Euro MF ? The first list is from http://www.bzpower.com/story.php?ID=7384 and the other information comes from the original posters. I thought it would be a good time to take a look again at some of what we know. Quote
Fulcrumfan91 Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Well...all I can say is that I'm pretty sure all that is true, considering sir von lego has been a reliable source in the past, and that the pric per piece ratios for some of these are super inflated! Quote
Clone 01354 Productions Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) A total of $570 (before taxes) for the TFA sets....So my grand total for 2015 will be $1060, more than $200 over my normal spending limit. My wallet is ready. Edited March 17, 2015 by LN-01354 Quote
Nekchir Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 A total of $570 (before taxes) for the TFA sets....So my grand total for 2015 will be $1060, more than $200 over my normal spending limit. My wallet is ready. Sweet Jesus. Quote
Slurpifier Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 A total of $570 (before taxes) for the TFA sets....So my grand total for 2015 will be $1060, more than $200 over my normal spending limit. My wallet is ready. Overtime for me then. Quote
James Wellington Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 I think I'm going to have to put down a firm budget for Summer 2015. I don't want to break the bank I'll get the sets I want for the June wave, and then save the rest of my money up for TFA sets, and if they're no good (I hope they're good!!) I guess I won't get many of those. And, I still have some pirates sets to get, too. Time to start saving Quote
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