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So we've now seen 75104 (Lead Villian Vehicle). I'm guessing 75101 (Villian Star Craft) is a Tie-fighter, 75102 (Hero Starfighter) is the new X-wing and 75015 (Hero Vehicle) is the Falcon.

Then we have 75103 (Villian Transport). I think this is the ship with the 4 diagonal ion-engines we've seen twice in the second trailer. Once flying along the new shuttle and once in the hangar scene.

Leaving the two smallest sets: 75099 (Lead Hero Craft) and 75100 (Villian Craft). I have absolutely no idea what they could be. But I'm really curious to see 75100. I'm hoping it's a cheaper sets that also contains Kylo.

One other thing: most of us have seen Captain Phasma in the second trailer. Which color do you guys think the mini-fig will be? Really chrome or flat silver/silver metallic?

That seems to be the general assumption. The one thing I can't work out it piece count.

9492 Tie Fighter (413 pieces) >>>> 75101 Tie Fighter (517 pieces)

What's changed in 3 years? The only major variance between the two should be colour and minifigs, where do the extra 100 pieces come from?

9493 X-Wing (560 pieces) >>>> 75102 X-Wing (717 pieces)

By all account the new TFA X-Wing is smaller and there's less to the wings compared to the OT era X-Wing so again, where do the extra 150 pieces come from?

The only way I can explain such a variance is that like the new 75092 Naboo Starfighter there might be a new trend with these latest sets coming with maintenance/loading equipment/ladders/stands etc boosting the piece count.

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The new X-Wing is much more complex that the OT one. The wing mechanism must be at least 100 pieces. The TIE has probably had a complete overhaul on the body, since the last one wasn't very screen accurate.

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It's possible the TIE isn't just the standard TIE, but the "Special Forces" TIE seen in some promotional art from Celebration as well as the 2nd teaser (shooting up the hangar; there's one docked in the upper left corner, too). Those special TIEs have a belly-mounted swiveling cannon, have 'wheel/cog' things mounted on the inside of the wings where they connect to the main body supports, red markings it seems, and what seems to be a narrow window on the back of the TIE between the twin ion engine ports. It's possible the TIE is a 2-seater, but maybe the pilot seat just swivels around to access the rear window? Not sure if the changes could account for an extra 100 pieces, but it's a possibility.

Otherwise, if it's a standard TIE with a fairly similar build, maybe there's some small scenery/machinery to go with it, perhaps a small speederbike?

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I see nothing unusual in new sets having more parts, than previous one. This is normal trend for Lego:

X-wing:

7142 (2002) - 267 parts

6212 (2006) - 437 parts

9493 (2012) - 560 parts

TIE Fighter:

7263 (2005) - 159 parts

9492 (2012) - 413 parts

This isn't a complete list of all X-wings and TIE fighters, but it shows how they grow.

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Not to mention using multiple pieces where 1 will do (two 1x1s instead of one 1x2)

I don't think they do that just for the sake of it. But they might do it if they have a build that uses 1x1s anyway. Each bag tends to have a limited number of parts. So if a section of a build needs a 1x2 plate and another part of the build needs a 2x2 plate, or something, they may use three 1x2 plates, to keep the total number of different parts low. I think that works out as being more economical for them, however they produce the sets.

One would think that as builds get more detailed, which requires the inclusion of the smaller pieces in each bag, there'd be more opportunities for these kinds of situations to arise.

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So on the back of the most recent Club Lego magazine there are a few easter eggs.

1) You can see the Death Star. Not sure if that really means anything, it could be that rumored new one or it could just be a picture of the Death Star :tongue:

2) Right next to the Death Star you can see a tiny ship in a "V" shape. It's not the Tydirium so I think this could be a small shot of Kylo Ren's ship.

3) There's a bunch of familiar figs underneath all this except for one...It's some sort of villain with what looks like a dark blue hood and a gun. I was initially thinking Darth Maul since that set is kind of a secret release, but I don't think so any more. It could be some character from Episode 7 or it could just be a mysterious guy from "Droid Tales" seeing as this back page is an advertisement for that show.

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I don't think they do that just for the sake of it. But they might do it if they have a build that uses 1x1s anyway. Each bag tends to have a limited number of parts. So if a section of a build needs a 1x2 plate and another part of the build needs a 2x2 plate, or something, they may use three 1x2 plates, to keep the total number of different parts low. I think that works out as being more economical for them, however they produce the sets.

One would think that as builds get more detailed, which requires the inclusion of the smaller pieces in each bag, there'd be more opportunities for these kinds of situations to arise.

Hmmm, i can see how that makes sense and hadnt thought of it like that before... Ill have to check the next sets i get to see how well that holds :)

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So on the back of the most recent Club Lego magazine there are a few easter eggs.

1) You can see the Death Star. Not sure if that really means anything, it could be that rumored new one or it could just be a picture of the Death Star :tongue:

2) Right next to the Death Star you can see a tiny ship in a "V" shape. It's not the Tydirium so I think this could be a small shot of Kylo Ren's ship.

3) There's a bunch of familiar figs underneath all this except for one...It's some sort of villain with what looks like a dark blue hood and a gun. I was initially thinking Darth Maul since that set is kind of a secret release, but I don't think so any more. It could be some character from Episode 7 or it could just be a mysterious guy from "Droid Tales" seeing as this back page is an advertisement for that show.

Can you post a photo

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You've got the photo set to private, so if there's a bigger version we can't access it. I'm guessing the hooded character is someone from Droid Tales. I only see the vaguest smudge above 3PO's head that MIGHT be the V-ship you mention... but considering the rest of the backdrop is pretty ROTJ-inspired, it probably isn't a TFA ship.

Also, that Death Star is 10143, the Death Star II.

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Sorry Ultron. I don't see anything remarklable about that image. The ship to the left of the Death Star is clearly an Imperial Shuttle. It just looks like an advert for the show, to me.

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You've got the photo set to private, so if there's a bigger version we can't access it. I'm guessing the hooded character is someone from Droid Tales. I only see the vaguest smudge above 3PO's head that MIGHT be the V-ship you mention... but considering the rest of the backdrop is pretty ROTJ-inspired, it probably isn't a TFA ship.

Also, that Death Star is 10143, the Death Star II.

Okay I changed it to public. The V-ship is to the left of the death star, it's very tiny and hard to see unless you're looking at the picture. But yeah, I figured the death star was just the older one.

Sorry Ultron. I don't see anything remarklable about that image. The ship to the left of the Death Star is clearly an Imperial Shuttle. It just looks like an advert for the show, to me.

No, not the Tydirium.... :hmpf_bad: it's a tiny little image directly to the left of the Death Star.

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Yeah, I can see that thing. But isn't that just a TIE fighter?

That's exactly what it is... just a TIE fighter. For all the talk of "clues" or "tie-ins" with various new SW projects and the upcoming films, they're really not doing any such thing this early on. Fans have been seeking clues & trying to decipher hidden meanings to every little tidbit of info we get about TFA, but it's all just grabbing a few dots in the sky and saying "that's Orion the Hunter!"

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I'm looking at the picture in person and it's not a tie fighter. The wings are sloped and Tie Fighters have parallel wings, not to mention the wings do not go below the main part of the ship. It could just be another imperial shuttle, but it's missing the middle wing. I was just trying to point out what could be a small easter egg to you guys, I don't know why some of you are getting so defensive. Lego has done this a few times before with the MTT and I believe a Tie Fighter or X-wing or something before....it's not out of the realm of possibility.

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I may be totally off by thinking this, but does that Leia have a new hair mould?

I don't think it's a new mould, but it looks to be in the lighter brown color rather than the dark. Probably just the picture though.

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