Ninjago 2015

[Aanchir]

The guy who uploaded that video said that

we would not be getting a white-robed Zane this year and that we would only be getting his Titanium version. If this is even true...

It wouldn't surprise me, and I can't say I'd even complain. We got three different Zane minifigures this year, after all.

[Master_Data]

It wouldn't surprise me, and I can't say I'd even complain. We got three different Zane minifigures this year, after all.

However,

if Zane can do what that Samurai could do, we could get him in a normal, white robe. I am not sure how reliable this source is.

I guess we will have to see.

[Mandate]

If that's the case, then why didn't we get the Samurai in a metal form too? Anyway, I wouldn't count on getting a white Titanium Ninja next year.

Also, I think that Episode 34 is going to be a "spoiler free" thing about a week after the DVD is released in America.

[Cagast]

If that's the case, then why didn't we get the Samurai in a metal form too?

Maybe we get him in the summer wave?

[Mandate]

I dunno. It's too early to tell at this point.

[Cagast]

There are set details on Amazon. Minifigure names are revealed too.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ninjago-70748-LEGO-Titanium-Dragon/dp/B00NVDMKOC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417295233&sr=8-1&keywords=Lego+70748

"Kai is wearing his unique tournament outfit". So these are tournament outfits? And now we know the offical names of next year's special weapons - Jade Blades. Very interesting.

[Mandate]

And the Anacondrai's weapons are called... Anacondrai Blades. Jade Blades is a pretty interesting name, though. And... it's Skylor! Dang. Skylar sounded cooler.

So all of the sleeveless outfits are Tournament outfits (which explains why Zane doesn't get one, Skylor however...) A rough outline of the plot is starting to come together. Just a shame it's probably going to be the Dark Island rather than Hiroshi's Labyrinth.

[coolcab1]

So master Chen is a Annacondrai cultist. I wonder how that will play out.

[Tobias_Jay]

This plot line sounds very intriguing. There could be something darker between the lines. There is a cultist named Kapau and an Anacondrai snake named Kapau'rai... There could be more to this alleged tournament than meets the eye.

Edited November 30, 2014 by Wall E2624

[coolcab1]

Like I said Chen is a anacondrai cultist and he is the one that created the tournament.

[Mandate]

Considering we've seen a Samurai turn into metal, I wouldn't be surprised if the Cultists can turn into snakes. However...

The loss of Zane has fractured the team of Ninja, but when a mysterious invitation to Master Chen's "Tournament of The Elements" arrives, everything is thrown into questions.

And

On the island, Lloyd learns his father used to train under the deceitful Master Chen. They meet the playfully deceitful ruler who tells them they are in a tournament where "Only once can remain"

These are descriptions of the first two episodes found on Cartoon Network's Asian website. However, a new island really does give me a lot of hope for the next season, even if it might be the Dark Island. It gives a chance for them to build up some lore around a singular location, and not need to worry about repercussions when developing future plots.

[coolcab1]

Yeah I agree, I thought it was just the jungle or like you said Hiroshi's Labyrinth or something.

[Mandate]

It may still be Jungle, but I doubt it's going to stick exclusively to that. The terrain will definitely be more diverse than what we've seen on the box art, I mean, compare the box art to the actual environments in every year of NINJAGO and they're all vastly different except Rebooted, and even THEN.

I will give LEGO one thing though, they're always very pretty and lovely to look at.

[coolcab1]

Well does anyone else think that this is the last year for ninjago? (Not counting the ninjago movies)

[Mandate]

This isn't the last year for NINJAGO. It *could* possibly be the last year for the NINJAGO we've currently got, because Phil Lord and Chris Miller want to throw away 5 years of plot just to glorify their success with TLM even more But I doubt it. The NINJAGO movie being a part of the TLM universe really worries me, because I doubt LEGO will have two versions of NINJAGO running alongside each other, and the NINJAGO movie is probably on a big enough budget that they wouldn't dare not make sets for it.

TL;DR, possibly.

[coolcab1]

Wait the NINJAGO movie is set in TLM universe (sorry I haven't been keeping up with it) why....WHY!!!

Edited November 30, 2014 by coolcab1

[Mandate]

Because LEGO wants their own cinematic universe. I feel they're jumping the gun on this, the success of the NINJAGO TV show and the success of the LEGO Movie has led them to start production of three block buster movies (Batman, NINJAGO and TLM 2) as well as a reality TV show. No, seriously, I'm not kidding about the last one.

Edited November 30, 2014 by JayWalker

[coolcab1]

No way....

EDIT: we should talk about this on the culture and multimedia section

Edited November 30, 2014 by coolcab1

[LegendsOfNinjago]

Has anyone else thouhght that maybe this Ship (the one in the trailer) could be set 70750? I mean, you'd get a hooded Skyler Skylor, a titanium version of Chen and then maybe a Wu and the remaining ninja...just a thought...

[Aanchir]

Well does anyone else think that this is the last year for ninjago? (Not counting the ninjago movies)

I mean, I don't know what "not counting the Ninjago movies" is supposed to mean, because there are definitely going to be sets to tie in with the movie in 2016. Otherwise, the LEGO Group would have little incentive to even RELEASE a Ninjago movie, since they are committed to remaining a toy company first and an entertainment company second.

And I hardly think this seems like it's the last year for Ninjago. As far as sets are concerned, things are getting bigger, not smaller. That's hardly what tends to happen when a toy-based franchise is on its last legs.

This isn't the last year for NINJAGO. It *could* possibly be the last year for the NINJAGO we've currently got, because Phil Lord and Chris Miller want to throw away 5 years of plot just to glorify their success with TLM even more

You are making a ludicrous assumption with zero basis in fact. Lord and Miller aren't the writers for the Ninjago movie. The Hageman brothers (the writers of the TV series) are; Lord and Miller are just two of the four producers. And the idea that the film would "feature a new take that diverges from the TV series" has been known since even before Lord and Miller were even attached to the project. So if anybody decided to "throw away 5 years of plot", it wasn't Lord and Miller, but rather the same two people who created those five years of plot in the first place.

Why are they doing this? Well, it's not 100% clear, but one big motivation is probably that a lot of the potential audience for the theatrical movie has never seen the TV series, and expecting them to jump into the story five years in is a bit ridiculous. There's a good reason why the Transformers theatrical movies, the G.I. Joe theatrical movies, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles theatrical movies, and so forth did not even make any pretense of sharing a continuity with the cartoons that preceded them. For a movie to be successful, it has to appeal to a wide audience, and it's very hard to do that when one segment of the audience has an understanding of the movie's backstory which is head-and-shoulders above a newcomer's knowledge of the movie's backstory.

Besides that, this doesn't necessarily mean the Ninjago TV series will necessarily have to end permanently, any more than Iron Man: Armored Adventures had to end permanently when Iron Man 2 was released in theaters or Transformers: Animated had to end permanently when Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen was released in theaters. Although, if this version of Ninjago IS able to wrap up permanently before then, I don't think it would be a huge loss. Frankly, I think it would be really impressive for the franchise to have the staying power to launch an entirely separate continuity without a sizable hiatus beforehand.

Edited November 30, 2014 by Aanchir

[coolcab1]

I mean, I don't know what "not counting the Ninjago movies" is supposed to mean, because there are definitely going to be sets to tie in with the movie in 2016. Otherwise, the LEGO Group would have little incentive to even RELEASE a Ninjago movie, since they are committed to remaining a toy company first and an entertainment company second.

And I hardly think this seems like it's the last year for Ninjago. As far as sets are concerned, things are getting bigger, not smaller. That's hardly what tends to happen when a toy-based franchise is on its last legs.

Let me rephrase that I mean do you think it is the last season of the TV series.

[Mandate]

You are making a ludicrous assumption with zero basis in fact. Lord and Miller aren't the writers for the Ninjago movie. The Hageman brothers (the writers of the TV series) are; Lord and Miller are just two of the four producers. And the idea that the film would "feature a new take that diverges from the TV series" has been known since even before Lord and Miller were even attached to the project. So if anybody decided to "throw away 5 years of plot", it wasn't Lord and Miller, but rather the same two people who created those five years of plot in the first place.

Sorry, should I have added "/sarcasm" to that? Also, did you know that The Avengers originally would have been terrible had Joss Whedon not thrown away the original script? The plot is approved by the director, not by the writer. And the producer has even more control than that. Which essentially means, my sarcastic comment had more basis in fact than your assumptions on how a movie is made. For the record, your source there actually claims:

The film will feature a new take that diverges from the TV series. Warner Bros.-based Dan Lin and Roy Lee, who are producing The Lego Movie, will produce Ninjago alongside Miller and Lord. The directing duo will not helm Ninjago, however, but are close to attaching a director.

...yeah. This says nothing about Lord and Miller being picked up after that decision. If anything it can be seen both ways.

Or in other words, your entire response to a sarcastic comment about said comment being factually incorrect and baseless was actually factually incorrect and more baseless than my sarcastic comment.

Why are they doing this? Well, it's not 100% clear, but one big motivation is probably that a lot of the potential audience for the theatrical movie has never seen the TV series, and expecting them to jump into the story five years in is a bit ridiculous. There's a good reason why the Transformers theatrical movies, the G.I. Joe theatrical movies, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles theatrical movies, and so forth did not even make any pretense of sharing a continuity with the cartoons that preceded them. For a movie to be successful, it has to appeal to a wide audience, and it's very hard to do that when one segment of the audience has an understanding of the movie's backstory which is head-and-shoulders above a newcomer's knowledge of the movie's backstory.

But they all attempted to at least somewhat follow the original storyline. The MCU works for Marvel because their universe always was connected in the base material. This is not the case with NINJAGO whatsoever, which has always existed inside its own world (+Clutch Powers). And we've already had a taste of what the TLM world thinks of NINJAGO.

Besides that, this doesn't necessarily mean the Ninjago TV series will necessarily have to end permanently, any more than Iron Man: Armored Adventures had to end permanently when Iron Man 2 was released in theaters or Transformers: Animated had to end permanently when Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen was released in theaters. Although, if this version of Ninjago IS able to wrap up permanently before then, I don't think it would be a huge loss. Frankly, I think it would be really impressive for the franchise to have the staying power to launch an entirely separate continuity without a sizable hiatus beforehand.

LEGO has never done anything like this before, however. Also, while I understand what you're saying, "I don't think it would be a huge loss." could be seen as an insult.

[obsidianheart]

Sorry, should I have added "/sarcasm" to that? Also, did you know that The Avengers originally would have been terrible had Joss Whedon not thrown away the original script? The plot is approved by the director, not by the writer. And the producer has even more control than that. Which essentially means, my sarcastic comment had more basis in fact than your assumptions on how a movie is made. For the record, your source there actually claims:

...yeah. This says nothing about Lord and Miller being picked up after that decision. If anything it can be seen both ways.

Or in other words, your entire response to a sarcastic comment about said comment being factually incorrect and baseless was actually factually incorrect and more baseless than my sarcastic comment.

But they all attempted to at least somewhat follow the original storyline. The MCU works for Marvel because their universe always was connected in the base material. This is not the case with NINJAGO whatsoever, which has always existed inside its own world (+Clutch Powers). And we've already had a taste of what the TLM world thinks of NINJAGO.

LEGO has never done anything like this before, however. Also, while I understand what you're saying, "I don't think it would be a huge loss." could be seen as an insult.

Pretty sure there's a thread for all that, yeah?

[Mandate]

Pretty sure there's a thread for all that, yeah?

Yeah, there is. I feel sorry for PeppermintM, every time we start a new page on this thread it gets derailed into a discussion about the TV show I'm probably gonna go do something else for a while to "restrain" myself from helping derail it any more.

Edited November 30, 2014 by JayWalker

[Bricknblue]

Because LEGO wants their own cinematic universe. I feel they're jumping the gun on this, the success of the NINJAGO TV show and the success of the LEGO Movie has led them to start production of three block buster movies (Batman, NINJAGO and TLM 2) as well as a reality TV show. No, seriously, I'm not kidding about the last one.

No, this isn't LEGO, this is WB that wants the movies.

LEGO was going to make NinjaGo into a DVD movie by the sounds of it until The LEGO Movie became huge, then WB wanted spinoffs to fill in the years until the sequel.