Ninjago 2015

[PenPlays]

Oh, and can I please point something out? Look at the Mobile Ninja HQ set. Look at Pythor. Look at the staff. Look at the trans purple round 1x1

We have actually had trans purple round 1x1s in the Ender World of the Minecraft Mini series...

When I came to this revelation, I was disappointed that I would have to spend thirty-five precious dollars to have a complete collection of Snake Staffs. Glad we'll probably getting an extra in Mobile Ninja HQ.

We've only seen one new snake thus far, the other General. Apparently he's Arcturus.

Now lets not jump to conclusions here. Arcturus could very well have been the misconceived Serpentine on the painting in the Ninjago Museum in the episode "Child's Play."

Either way, we don't have any confirmation as to who this is at the moment.

I'd love for that reference to Arcturus to be a teaser though. Perfect forshadowing.

Edited September 16, 2014 by Penkid11

[Mandate]

I was just speculating... :)

We have actually had trans purple round 1x1s in the Ender World of the Minecraft Mini series...

That's not the point I was making. There's a possibility that's a stand in for the Anacondrai Staff, which we haven't seen before. If the round trans purple part has printing, it'll be easy to create a new staff if it isn't a Snake Staff.

Did they actually ever say "you're the only four(five if you count Nya, or three if you don't count either her or Zane) minifigures with elemental powers?" Because all I remember, was Wu saying "You have the fire inside of you."

That's not what I was saying. I was pointing out that we know 5/6 (Zane's ice powers may no longer exist after

he died

characters with elemental powers.

What I'm saying is, we don't know who the new character/s with elemental powers are. Not that there won't be any new characters with elemental powers, but which characters have them. It's probably not the "followers", and it's almost certainly not the new ninja.

True, but he still can walk around fine, in all media appearances. Cyrus is the first minifigure to be fully disabled in his legs. And I think it's kind of cool the way they did it. He doesn't let it get in the way of his work, and he doesn't comment on it all of the time, like a lot of fictional characters are written as doing. He just deals with it like he was a real person. I was impressed.

I'm not exactly sure as to what you mean by that first part. Are you implying that Blaze is fine without the brace, or fine with the brace? Cyrus is an inventor. It would be silly of them to introduce him as a major character and then drop him immediately, like they did with Misako (not the fault of the writers, I know) and Dr Julien. What I'm saying is, it's not entirely out of the question that Cyrus would invent something to help his legs, or eve cure them. Who knows? We can only speculate on what we have seen, and in the past that's led to radically different story presumptions.

Edited September 16, 2014 by JayWalker

[Lind Whisperer]

I'm not exactly sure as to what you mean by that first part. Are you implying that Blaze is fine without the brace, or fine with the brace? Cyrus is an inventor. It would be silly of them to introduce him as a major character and then drop him immediately, like they did with Misako (not the fault of the writers, I know) and Dr Julien. What I'm saying is, it's not entirely out of the question that Cyrus would invent something to help his legs, or eve cure them. Who knows? We can only speculate on what we have seen, and in the past that's led to radically different story presumptions.

I was saying that the leg injury doesn't prevent Blaze from walking (while using a brace), or at least standing up on his own. Whereas Cyrus is completely disabled.

Although I'll sound a little heartless for saying this, I kind of hope that they don't write in Cyrus curing himself. That would be kind of mean to kids who have leg disabilities, since cures like that don't really exist at the moment.

Edited September 16, 2014 by Lind Whisperer

[Mandate]

I was under the assumption Blaze's brace was what enabled him to walk in the first place?

No, you don't sound heartless. I can agree with you, magic cure plot device isn't the greatest thing to do. Arguably better than dropping him altogether, although they could keep him at the Mobile Ninja HQ like Oracle in the Batman comic-verse. But regardless, I'm still wondering who the character is. They have (probably have) Will Turner hair, and we know they aren't the new ninja because of their color scheme.

EDIT: I just noticed a function on Boulder Blaster that may actually convince me to buy it. There's a handle on the underside, and a "trigger" as well (although that could just be part of the build obscured into looking that way). The gears on the side would be turned by pulling the trigger similarly to the Hero Factory Dropship. It doesn't flap the forewings, (they're attached like the Kai Fighter's) so my assumption is that it would spin the center turbine, when the turbine spins, a little notch connected to the non-spinning wheel used in the turbine construction will allow the tap missiles to fire. So it's basically a machine gun plane

Not entirely certain of a "trigger" mechanism. Very hard to tell from the image, and there's a lack of room for it to fit, but I'm 100% certain on the actual turbine function. This set is a whole lot cooler now!

EDIT 2: Noticing even more functions now. The wings on the Electro Mech have their own lever/gear turn thing. There's a black Four Knob gear for each wing, both controlled by a yellow Four Knob connected to a grey part I can't quite make out. Not sure what it is, but it's connected directly to the yellow Four Knobs.

Jungle Trap's swinging swords are operated by a rod through the center of the build, probably connected to a gear at the back. The set is too small to have counter-swinging blades though

The rest of the functions are either too obvious or hidden (eg, the Ninja Mobile HQ)

Edited September 16, 2014 by JayWalker

[Aanchir]

Did they actually ever say "you're the only four(five if you count Nya, or three if you don't count either her or Zane) minifigures with elemental powers?" Because all I remember, was Wu saying "You have the fire inside of you."

No, they never said anything specific to that effect, but it's easy to see how the ninja (or viewers) might be able to assume it. You never see any other characters using elemental powers in a similar way, and Sensei Wu went out of his way to choose these four ninja.

I don't know if Nya officially has elemental powers. What we DO know about her is what's established in the LEGO Ninjago Official Guide: she "does not know Spinjitzu or any formal martial arts, but has a fighting style that is uniquely her own."

The trading cards featuring her all showed a lot of fire, but that was quite possibly just artistic license, the same way some of the cards depict the spinners themselves even though they're mostly meant to be symbolic for the tornadoes that surround a Spinjitzu user.

Some of Garmadon's skeleton warriors (unspecified) are established to have Spinjitzu in the same book. But although the old website described them with titles like "the skeleton of ice" or "skeleton general of lightning", I think their elemental affiliations are more symbolic, like the elemental affiliations of the Serpentine trading cards. The trading cards never show them using elemental powers.

Compared to this years sets, I find these new sets much more interesting. Unlike say Ultra Agents where the reverse is true. Even though Im not much of a fan of action vehicles these all look more or less good. Though the location-based set "Enter the Serpentine" is the cream of the crop.

I wonder if the "snake-cultists" are really humans or preliminary stand-ins for snakes with legs. And I also wonder what these new blades do. Looks like theres a set of four blades/weapons for everything...

As for the elemental powers, I prefer Dorayakis suggestion that the run into the Elves...

The snake cultists are definitely not placeholders, as they appear in as humans in illustrations. I like that not only do the Anacondrai followers wear the skulls of dead Anacondrai, but one has what looks like an Anacondrai skin wrapped over his head. Spooky!

There is at least one new Anacondrai (a purple one with a shorter neck than Pythor). Some people have speculated that this is Arcturus, but I'm hesitant about assuming that, in part because I haven't seen all of this year's episodes, so I'm even more clueless about how the Anacondrai might return than most people. Incidentally, one of the human cultists in both the promotional art and set 70747 has the same red shoulder pads and Sand Yellow sword as the mystery Anacondrai in 70748. Perhaps part of the way Pythor gathers these followers is by promising them the opportunity to become actual Anacondrai?

I also like the color scheme and aesthetic of the Anacondrai vehicles and ruins. It's similar enough to the Serpentine vehicles and ruins to make sense thematically, but different enough that it doesn't feel like a rehash of the 2012 sets. All the bones are very cool, though I hope that in the final set these might be tan to match the skulls rather than white.

[Thelegomaster]

Where was this illustration found and where can I get an image of the battle scene

[Mandate]

There is at least one new Anacondrai (a purple one with a shorter neck than Pythor). Some people have speculated that this is Arcturus, but I'm hesitant about assuming that, in part because I haven't seen all of this year's episodes, so I'm even more clueless about how the Anacondrai might return than most people. Incidentally, one of the human cultists in both the promotional art and set 70747 has the same red shoulder pads and Sand Yellow sword as the mystery Anacondrai in 70748. Perhaps part of the way Pythor gathers these followers is by promising them the opportunity to become actual Anacondrai?

I was actually going to comment on this, I had noticed the similarities and it would certainly explain a lot. Although the one in 70747 is depicted with red shoulderpads, while the area showcasing the Minifigures shows him with the sand red ones.

Alright, this is relatively non-spoilery for you. Pythor made a deal with the Overlord, dubbed it a "small favor" in return for his services. It hasn't been elaborated on in any further episodes, other than the mentioning of a serpentine general Arcturus (although I can't remember him being mentioned, but that's because I've watched very little of Episode 31, 32 and 33)

There's three different new Anacondrai (Pythor not included). 70750's Anacondrai features sand shoulder-pads, but it has a printed torso. 70749's Anacondrai has no shoulder pads, but features something going over his chest, but it's not armor. 70748 features one with shoulder-pads but with no torso printing.

While they could still all be the same character, it's not as likely. They all feature Pythor's tail (with its old printing), but the differing torsos is a bit weird. It could be a design error, but I doubt it.

Upon closer inspection, the Titanium Dragon has a steering wheel

[Tobias_Jay]

I don't know if Nya officially has elemental powers. What we DO know about her is what's established in the LEGO Ninjago Official Guide: she "does not know Spinjitzu or any formal martial arts, but has a fighting style that is uniquely her own."

That's odd. She has used Spinjitzu in the past (specifically episode 25). Then again, I guess these sorts of mistakes have happened many times in the past.

[Cagast]

Where was this illustration found and where can I get an image of the battle scene

Aanchir linked to it in the post above.

For those who think that Zane isn't the titanium ninja showed in the set, just look at all these white and trans blue parts. That gives the titan dragon ice elemental powers and who is the ninja of ice - zane. and that is one of the best ways to bring him back to life. Also look at the top of the box and see what is written near titanium ninja's picture and it looks like "zane". Also it is good to see that they put spring loaded missiles in ninjago too.

Also where is sensei wu?

[PenPlays]

By the looks of it we have a total eight Anacondrai (both "cultists" and actual snakes)

-Sleeveless, Skull wearing cultist with purple pants

-Mohawk cultist

-Tendril Skull cultist

-Armored, sleeveless,cultist

-Armored Anacondrai

-Random character with a hair bun (whether this character is actually affiliated remains to be seen)

-Un-armored Anacondrai

-Sleeveless, Skull wearing cultist with dark red pants

-Pythor

That's a pretty decent sized group if I do say so myself.

That's odd. She has used Spinjitzu in the past (specifically episode 25). Then again, I guess these sorts of mistakes have happened many times in the past.

Yes, but she was possessed by the Overlord/Dark Matter at that point. It isn't for certain if he temporarily unlocked the Spinjitzu powers that she's had all along, or gave her Spinjitzu due to her being one of his lackeys.

Edited September 16, 2014 by Penkid11

[Mandate]

Aanchir linked to it in the post above.

For those who think that Zane isn't the titanium ninja showed in the set, just look at all these white and trans blue parts. That gives the titan dragon ice elemental powers and who is the ninja of ice - zane. and that is one of the best ways to bring him back to life. Also look at the top of the box and see what is written near titanium ninja's picture and it looks like "zane". Also it is good to see that they put spring loaded missiles in ninjago too.

Also where is sensei wu?

Spring loaded missiles made their first appearance in the X-1 Ninja Charger and in BFNNC. Regarding Sensei Wu, I think everyone's wondering. Let's hope they didn't do a Dr Julien with him

By the looks of it we have a total eight Anacondrai (both "cultists" and actual snakes)

-Sleeveless, Skull wearing cultist with purple pants

-Mohawk cultist

-Tendril Skull cultist

-Armored, sleeveless,cultist

-Armored Anacondrai

-Random character with a hair bun (whether this character is actually affiliated remains to be seen)

-Un-armored Anacondrai

-Sleeveless, Skull wearing cultist with dark red pants

-Pythor

That's a pretty decent sized group if I do say so myself.

Not when you consider they only have a base, two vehicles and a bunch of shrines. Meanwhile, at the Ninja's vehicle and character collection:

-Cole's Machine Gun Plane (aka boulder blaster )

-Lloyd's Jungle Raider

-Jay's Electro Mech

-Zane's Titanium Dragon

-Kai's Motorbike

-Nya's hover...board...thing. Whatever that is.

-Keetoninja's hoverboard

-Garmadon's HQ (probably Nya's actually, but might as well for consistency)

-unidentified guy in black

So... 2 vehicles, 8 (possibly 5/7) cultists versus 8 vehicles and 9 characters.

Although admittedly BIONICLE has a worse ratio with its facehuggers.

Edited September 16, 2014 by JayWalker

[Cagast]

Spring loaded missiles made their first appearance in the X-1 Ninja Charger and BFNNC

I know. just saying that it's good they appear in almost every bigger set now

also what if they replaced wu with garmadon as their new main leader? wu is one of the main characters,if he's still alive i doubt it they wouldn't include him in at least one of these 11 sets...

[Aanchir]

That's odd. She has used Spinjitzu in the past (specifically episode 25). Then again, I guess these sorts of mistakes have happened many times in the past.

I had forgotten about that. I kind of like Penkid11's theory that she has the power to use Spinjitzu and just hasn't unlocked it for her own use yet. Lloyd seems to indicate that Spinjitzu runs in the family, after all, and Sensei Wu tells Kai in the short story "In His Footsteps" that his father "could have (learned Spinjitzu), if he had chosen that path. But he did not." Perhaps the same applies to Nya — she could be a Spinjitzu master, but she instead decided to embrace her own unique skills and become a samurai.

In any case, it will be interesting if the writers choose to touch on Nya's elemental potential in later episodes.

[Mandate]

I know. just saying that it's good they appear in almost every bigger set now

also what if they replaced wu with garmadon as their new main leader? wu is one of the main characters,if he's still alive i doubt it they wouldn't include him in at least one of these 11 sets...

Personally I'm just glad we're getting rid of Flick Missiles. I liked the concept, but they never really worked properly. They were too hard to fire, etc... although the original ones were a lot worse. At any rate, they won't be gone entirely. Small sets will still feature them, and the Spring Missiles are a bit hard to incorporate because of how big they are. Wish they had have included the stud machine gun, but I'm assuming it's to make BIONICLE's Protectors more appealing (which they most certainly are made to be from that addition). Although it could just be that they're untested by the fanbase and they want to see how they run before fully incorporating them. Personally I think it's the former.

But seriously though, no one cares about the spinny-firing mechanism of Boulder Blaster other than me?

[Samed5]

Nya was only able to do spinjitzu in episode 25 due to being infected by the dark matter. Normally, she doesn't have any elemental powers.

EDIT: Just noticed that someone above already pointed that out.

Edited September 17, 2014 by Samed5

[PenPlays]

Personally I'm just glad we're getting rid of Flick Missiles. I liked the concept, but they never really worked properly.

Even then, those things will probably be outmoded by the end of next year. If you look on Jay's Electro-mech (and several Ultra Agents, Star Wars and Chima sets, I might add) the "Bad Cop Gun" (the stud gun) has a counterpart that features a stud and tube plate grafted in it.

TL;DR- There's a new stud-gun that connects like a plate onto bricks without the use of a hinge.

[Lind Whisperer]

I had forgotten about that. I kind of like Penkid11's theory that she has the power to use Spinjitzu and just hasn't unlocked it for her own use yet. Lloyd seems to indicate that Spinjitzu runs in the family, after all, and Sensei Wu tells Kai in the short story "In His Footsteps" that his father "could have (learned Spinjitzu), if he had chosen that path. But he did not." Perhaps the same applies to Nya — she could be a Spinjitzu master, but she instead decided to embrace her own unique skills and become a samurai.

I support this theory also.

I don't support the episode claiming that Samurai trumps pirates, though*. Anyone can clearly see that the story was re-written to be ninja propaganda. Pirates always trump pajama men.

*Yes, the actual lines were a little bit different, but that was the idea.

[JasonEffex]

But seriously though, no one cares about the spinny-firing mechanism of Boulder Blaster other than me?

That feature does look great, I love how Lego are finding new and interesting ways to use the new blasters like this.

I assume that there's a total of eight missiles on that thing which would make it VERY fun to fire.

[horizon]

Ninja's with no printing? Will be added I reckon. The sets look pretty crappy. Maybe some better views of the dragon are needed. But Ninjago lost mighty people after the stone army. The whole nindroid concept had inferior sets* and these seem bland as well. * With inferior I mean that the skeleton, first snake & stone wave had much better sets.

[Mandate]

Ninja's with no printing? Will be added I reckon. The sets look pretty crappy. Maybe some better views of the dragon are needed. But Ninjago lost mighty people after the stone army. The whole nindroid concept had inferior sets* and these seem bland as well. * With inferior I mean that the skeleton, first snake & stone wave had much better sets.

Define "mighty people". If you're referring to the amount of people that like and buy NINJAGO, you're wrong. It was brought back because of high demand and from this year's sales they've ramped up the amount of sets. We have a blockbuster movie due in 2016, which guarantees (not including the 2015 Winter Wave) 4 more waves at least. These sets were probably designed waaaay before BIONICLE 2015, that's how far back in the production pipeline. The store art has been completed (and is newer) so we have a better view of many changes they've made (eg, the change of gunmetal/silver Zane back to white)

They wouldn't be doing this is it had luck luster sales performance. Although I can agree with you about it looking horrible whenever I see the eyes on the Serpentine vehicles. They just look terrible with that printed version.

Edited September 17, 2014 by JayWalker

[horizon]

Define "mighty people". If you're referring to the amount of people that like and buy NINJAGO, you're wrong.

wtf did I just type there? Never meant to type the word people. What I meant was Ninjago lost mighty appeal. (Enter not working in this forum is kinda crappy as well). Sorry you had to reply to something I didn't meant. Of course also appeal to me (subjective). And yes, I am looking forward to the full movie and see what they cook up. Because what do they want to do: 1) have a story that follows the storyline from the cartoons with new outfits or 2) return to the basic ninjago outfit and try to get more audience. In case of 1 you limit the scope of audience.

[Cagast]

i don't know if anybody mentioned this before but just look at display box. look at the temple. look at that minifigure and it looks like it is white or light blue and it's zane

[Mandate]

I've brought that up before, it's white, and that confirms for me that Zane won't be silver. Or, at the very least, we have a new white ninja (which I doubt)

[Pulp Detective]

It seems that the Ninja will have two whole new different outfits(the sleeveless and the one with the mask).

And what about the "orange" Ninja on the 70746,does anyone know who is he??

Edited September 17, 2014 by LOTR343

[Peppermint_M]

wtf did I just type there? Never meant to type the word people. What I meant was Ninjago lost mighty appeal. (Enter not working in this forum is kinda crappy as well). Sorry you had to reply to something I didn't meant. Of course also appeal to me (subjective). And yes, I am looking forward to the full movie and see what they cook up. Because what do they want to do: 1) have a story that follows the storyline from the cartoons with new outfits or 2) return to the basic ninjago outfit and try to get more audience. In case of 1 you limit the scope of audience.

What browser are you using? There are a number of known issues between Internet Explorer and Invision forum software.

It seems that the Ninja will have two whole new different outfits(the sleeveless and the one with the mask).

And what about the "orange" Ninja on the 70746,does anyone know who is he??

Maybe it's simply a placeholder graphic? The high contrast colour makes it easy to replace. I suppose we will find out when the official images are around. (Lets keep camping that S@H image cache!)