Kalhiki Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Sure didn't see Spyclop's vehicle coming. Didn't even occur to me it would be spider themed. Stealth Bike is nice. Definitely a light cycle. Also, is that a space cowboy? Drillex looks wonderful. I love how it looks like a repurposed construction vehicle. 4x4 looks... Less impressive. And Toxikita again... Oh well. At least it comes with a Robo Dog!!! Agent Copter looks sweet. Still wish AntiMatter had a larger vehicle, but I assume he's so powerful, he doesn't need one. Judging by the art on the top of the packaging, he looks to be a great figure. EDIT: If I had a dime for every time I started a new page... Edited September 15, 2014 by Kalhiki Quote
Algernon Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 These sets looks awesome to me. That chopper especially. I love how it feels like Tron + spies. Quote
Lyichir Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 The LEGO Movie is not actually canon, in regards to the main LEGO canon. It is a very nice movie, one which I must see, but it is in no way rooted in the main LEGO canon. It exists in its own, separate "canon", whereas Clutch Powers is firmly rooted in canon, and connects to many, many other themes through a long string of cameos, shoutouts, and timelines. There is no "official Lego canon" and Clutch Powers' canon is not related to that of other movies and themes (besides MAYBE the shout-out in Ninjago). Almost every Lego crossover story has established a new canon for how the themes interact, and Clutch Powers' canon is no more "official" than Lego Universe's, Lego Racers' or that of the old Lego Maniac comics in the Mania Magazine. In the canon of actual sets and themes, Lego Castle is not on a separate planet from other themes, Space Police does not take place at the same time as Lego City, Lego is not a peacekeeping organization, and there is no "Omega" behind the scenes pulling the strings behind major villains of various themes. Clutch Powers was not a particularly successful movie and as such the canon it was trying to establish has been all but abandoned. It doesn't matter that the Lego Movie's canon contradicts it—its focus on Lego as an actual toy was a far more well-received take on how Lego themes interact, and Lego is much more likely to return to that idea in future crossover movies than to dredge up the weird canon of Clutch Powers which most Lego fans aren't even aware of. Quote
Lind Whisperer Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Actually, the canon has been upheld. Here's a brief overview of the more obvious cross-overs. Clutch Powers establishes Castle, City, Agents, Space Police III, and Power Miners. Power Miners's "Brains" was re-hired by the Atlantis crew(confirmed cross-over by LEGO designers.) In the LEGO Club Magazine, after the Atlantis discovery in 2010, the crew of the Neptune, Earth saw the second invasion of Earth by Hypaxxus 8, in preparation for the third invasion, later that year. The invasion would be thwarted by the Alien Defense Unit. Castle, City, Agents, Space Police III, Power Miners, Atlantis, Alien Conquest, Pharaoh's Quest, Dino, Ninjago...the list keeps growing, and more and more connections keep being made. The listed ones are some of the more obvious - I can keep going for quite a few more*. *For instance, Josh Thunder, from Dino(which was an attack by Hypaxxus 8) is a confirmed descendant of Johnny Thunder, securing the entire Adventurers line firmly into canon. Edited September 15, 2014 by Lind Whisperer Quote
Bricknblue Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I like how the colors are more uniform. Love trans blue. Quote
Agent Fusion Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Spyclops is a fireman with an Overborg head. Ok then. Quote
robuko Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Just noticed the orange galaxy patrol armour on Toxikita as 8brickmario said. Lovely! Apart from that I think the set sucks but my son loves it. The Tron bike seems to have some transforming function, I think the wheels split and point downwards for a hover mode. The ultra agent helmet motif on the box is very interesting as none of the agents is wearing a helmet in the sets- hopefully this means the blond flat top hair turns gets swapped out for a cool new mould, and i think the villain hats will all get updated too. The story line looks like the bad guys steal a chip, safe, diamond, data, and turn it all into the Dark Crystal for the Hooded Claw. Edited September 15, 2014 by robuko Quote
Lyichir Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Actually, the canon has been upheld. Here's a brief overview of the more obvious cross-overs. Clutch Powers establishes Castle, City, Agents, Space Police III, and Power Miners. Power Miners's "Brains" was re-hired by the Atlantis crew(confirmed cross-over by LEGO designers.) In the LEGO Club Magazine, after the Atlantis discovery in 2010, the crew of the Neptune, Earth saw the second invasion of Earth by Hypaxxus 8, in preparation for the third invasion, later that year. The invasion would be thwarted by the Alien Defense Unit. Castle, City, Agents, Space Police III, Power Miners, Atlantis, Alien Conquest, Pharaoh's Quest, Dino, Ninjago...the list keeps growing, and more and more connections keep being made. The listed ones are some of the more obvious - I can keep going for quite a few more*. *For instance, Josh Thunder, from Dino(which was an attack by Hypaxxus 8) is a confirmed descendant of Johnny Thunder, securing the entire Adventurers line firmly into canon. Um... no. Clutch Powers clumsily appropriated models from the above theme in a context completely separate from those themes' canon stories. The Power Miners didn't appear, but Power Miners sets did. Clutch drove the Agents Turbocar despite not being a member of the Agents organization, but rather a "Lego" organization which, unsurprisingly, has never appeared in any non-CP media or sets. Clutch & his teammates went to space in Mars Mission uniforms but a Space Police ship. The Space Police were around in the first place, despite the theme "canonically" taking place in the future of both Lego City and Classic Space. The Lego Magazine comic that crossed Atlantis, Pharaoh's Quest, Monster Fighters, Alien Conquest, and Dino was no more canon to those individual themes or Clutch Powers than previous Lego Magazine crossovers. You can keep saying that Lego themes form a singular canon linked by Clutch Powers, but it's just not true. Clutch Powers used other themes' sets out of convenience and its "canon" (which was independent of the stories of the themes it appropriated) was abandoned pretty quickly. You're linking those themes together based on the assumption that there is a singular canon, but there isn't, and crossovers are done out of convenience, not out of any grand unifying theory. We will never see "Omega" (a villain named so ambiguously due to not existing in any concrete form) in a set, and Ultra Agents has nothing to do with Clutch Powers any more than the classic Agents theme did. Edited September 15, 2014 by Lyichir Quote
Aanchir Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Yeah, crossovers are not at all proof that two franchises share a universe. Marvel and DC Comics have had multiple crossovers, but the shared universe in these stories is not canon outside of these stories. Hulk does not exist in the DC Comics universe, and Batman does not exist in the Marvel Comics universe, even though the characters have appeared in crossover comics together. Likewise, the LEGO Movie includes LEGO Batman as a character, but that doesn't mean that all LEGO Batman stories take place in The LEGO Movie's universe. In fact, there are plenty of LEGO crossover stories that directly contradict each other, like The LEGO Movie and Clutch Powers. You can't just arbitrarily declare that one is more canon than the other just because you prefer one universe to the other. Quote
Lind Whisperer Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Um... no. Clutch Powers clumsily appropriated models from the above theme in a context completely separate from those themes' canon stories. Separate, but there are no conflicts between them. And, in the absence of conflict there is nothing that suggests that they can't exist together. The Space Police were around in the first place, despite the theme canonically taking place in the future of both Lego City and Classic Space. The Lego Magazine comic that crossed Atlantis, Pharaoh's Quest, Monster Fighters, Alien Conquest, and Dino was no more canon to those individual themes or Clutch Powers than previous Lego Magazine crossovers. Actually, the Space timeline has never been fully determined. Classic Space may be in the future, around 2076(as based on a printed wallpiece), or it happened as it was released on the planet Zonia. Also, Monster Fighters are not part of the Clutch Powers canon. That was a different comic, and isn't linked unless LEGO ties it, Galaxy Squad, or Ultra Agents into another part of the chain. You can keep saying that Lego themes form a singular canon linked by Clutch Powers, but it's just not true. Clutch Powers used other themes' sets out of convenience and its "canon" (which was independent of the stories of the themes it appropriated) was abandoned pretty quickly. You're linking those themes together based on the assumption that there is a singular canon, but there isn't, and crossovers are done out of convenience, not out of any grand unifying theory. We will never see "Omega" (a villain named so ambiguously due to not existing in any concrete form) in a set, and Ultra Agents has nothing to do with Clutch Powers any more than the classic Agents theme did. I'm directly quoting references to official media that all tie themes together directly... It may not be the singular canon, but it's definitely a main canon. And just because LEGO doesn't officially operate off of an official main canon, doesn't mean that one can't easily be assembled. In fact, there are plenty of LEGO crossover stories that directly contradict each other, like The LEGO Movie and Clutch Powers. You can't just arbitrarily declare that one is more canon than the other just because you prefer one universe to the other. No argument. There are multiple canons in the LEGO Universe. I would like to point out, though, that from spoilers, Doesn't the LEGO Movie take place in the head of a little kid? It may be its own canon, but it's something to strongly consider before saying that it's the ultimate canon. How about we all agree that multiple canons can be formed using media, some incorporating more themes than others, and return to talking about Ultra Agents in 2015? Edited September 15, 2014 by Lind Whisperer Quote
Lyichir Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Doesn't the LEGO Movie take place in the head of a little kid? It may be its own canon, but it's something to strongly consider before saying that it's the ultimate canon. This is, ironically, why I consider it even more "canon" than other crossover attempts. Because the canon of The Lego Movie is, essentially, that there is no canon—that the interaction between themes is shaped entirely by the stories fans tell with the products. That fits perfectly with the long history of inconsistent crossovers in Lego. In any case, I wasn't suggesting that it was canon to all other themes, but rather, that Clutch Powers' attempts at creating a singular canon would never be revisited, because it was unsuccessful and The Lego Movie was insanely successful, so any future attempts at a crossover movie are likely to be based on The Lego Movie or a new "canon," rather than a movie which will be remembered only as an obscure part of Lego's history like Lego Island or Jack Stone. Don't get me wrong: I liked Clutch Powers, even if The Lego Movie was ultimately better. It was a decent movie. But it had no staying power when it was released to lackluster reviews and I had no illusions that its crossover was any more canon than Lego Universe, Lego Racers, or any other. But anyway! Back to Ultra Agents. The new sets are great. I don't think I'll get many, just like I haven't gotten any of this year's. But it seems to be following admirably in the original Agents theme's footsteps by providing a colorful cast of engaging villains and plenty of awesome sets. Quote
TheLazyChicken Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Ehh, the sets are not interesting for me at all, maybe I might get the smallest one but the rest are not worth it in my opinion. Quote
Slurpifier Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 The sets are just as good as this years! I still have the HQ from this year to pick up. Heres hoping I collect the full theme! Quote
8BrickMario Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Spyclops is a fireman with an Overborg head. Ok then. I think they're going for an evil exterminator/pest control worker. Except the pests are under his control! The OverBorg head is preliminary, because it's not unique, and the double-sided face wouldn't work with the cap. CRAP! The gallery was deleted. No more beautiful hi-res LEGO 2015 images!!! Edited September 15, 2014 by 8BrickMario Quote
CM4Sci Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 CRAP! The gallery was deleted. No more beautiful hi-res LEGO 2015 images!!! I made the gallery, so I've still got everything! PM me for them. -Sci Quote
Ardelon Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Well, it looks like Im only interested in the villains. A location-base set would have been nice. Though I do wonder what the power bricks will be. So far, the first wave looked better, but of course, themse are only prelims. Quote
DuckBricks Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 I made the gallery, so I've still got everything! PM me for them. -Sci Thanks so much! I managed to save all the images last night... Thanks again CM4Sci! Quote
Peppermint_M Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Right, good, back on topic so please stay there! I'm afraid this wave of Ultra Agents just isn't capturing my attention... The whole theme, while pretty nice, hasn't got anything that is drawing me in, bar a few hair colours and accessories. Maybe some finalised set details will convince me. Quote
Agent Fusion Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Sci, could you send me the a link to the gallery please? Quote
genecyst Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 well, ultra agents, ninjago and probably i'll even return to chima this 2015... Quote
Commissioner Gordon Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Sci, could you send me the a link to the gallery please? over in the licensed forum under dc 2015 heavylion posted a mirror of the album. apologies for getting off topic. Quote
just2good Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) I'm really not liking this wave by the looks of it. Extreme disappointment compared to the amazing first wave. Also, these sets look 100% final, besides the mask on the evil guy in the biggest set and the armor piece on the smallest set's agent (or is that just my eyes?). I guess they designed these with the last wave. Edited September 17, 2014 by just2good Quote
obsidianheart Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 Stealth Bike's wheels unfold into a hover-thing. Pretty sure, anyway. New Agent Armor and Drill gauntlets look like preliminary pre-mold test pieces based of color and texture. Most of the figure prints look non-final, too. Set designs look done, though, although we might get another instance of how in Wave 1 the HQ cab window was upside down in the prelim pictures. Now, we just wait, I guess. Quote
8BrickMario Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 I'm sure Spyclops isn't final, since he uses a preexisting, and double-sided, head and an existing torso print. I do hope they keep the evil exterminator theme, though. I would hope Flat-top guy gets the helmet on the boxart, or something similar. Drillex's tank bugs me, since the color is too similar to Toxikita's vehicles, but I doubt it will change. These pictures look more final than most prelims do. What's unfinal-looking about the new AntiMatter hood? And the new weapon accessory used by Drillex might be a different color. The windblown-haired Agent's face doesn't look final either, since his face looks like an existing print. Quote
elederberg Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 I couldn't tell by the pictures but does Invizable have a plain clear head? Or is it a plain clear head with printing? Quote
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