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I think you just found the picture the designer used to model the front of the cab on this set.

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No matter if you think it ugly or not, you can't say it isn't accurate.

If you compare height of fenders, this is some kind of road version with small engine tunnel not offroad as lego.Also logo in lego isnt between two layers as in this version.I say, this isnt accurate.

http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/content/unitedkingdom/mpc/mpc_unitedkingdom_website/en/home_mpc/truck/home/new_trucks/model_range/arocs/arocs/facts/Cabs/classic_space_cabs.html

Also that three layers version dont have rearview mirror in front of vehicle as 4 and up.

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Just curious. Use the setup on the left picture to drive the turntable type 2 (with 2x 16 tooth gears); do you think the new style turntable of the 42043 supports the same setup but then with 2x 12 tooth gears (right setup) ???

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Just curious. Use the setup on the left picture to drive the turntable type 2 (with 2x 16 tooth gears); do you think the new style turntable of the 42043 supports the same setup but then with 2x 12 tooth gears (right setup) ???

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I do not know, It's hard to say without it in hand, but I have actually driven the present style turntable with 12z double bevel gears.

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Just curious. Use the setup on the left picture to drive the turntable type 2 (with 2x 16 tooth gears); do you think the new style turntable of the 42043 supports the same setup but then with 2x 12 tooth gears (right setup) ???

Yes. The new turn table appears to be 60 teeth. For those that don't know that's 4 more than the current one so to drive it you would use a drive gear with 4 less teeth.

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Ok, we've had a wide range of AFOL opinions; today I tested the Nuremberg photos on my kids.

Crawler Crane

3 year old: "I love it, can we get it"

5 year old: "It's really good, I like it, it can lift stuff and stuff like that. It has a grabber and some string and some tracks. It has motors and it's really really long. And it's blue."

Arocs

3 year old: "I love it, it has a crane and wheels and a thing".

5 year old: "Not very good, the colours are all bleargh, I don't like them".

So eh. These days I only buy the ones they like, I've got enough Technic sets slowly cracking in the loft, and too many unfinished MOCs.

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Ok, we've had a wide range of AFOL opinions; today I tested the Nuremberg photos on my kids.

Crawler Crane

3 year old: "I love it, can we get it"

5 year old: "It's really good, I like it, it can lift stuff and stuff like that. It has a grabber and some string and some tracks. It has motors and it's really really long. And it's blue."

Arocs

3 year old: "I love it, it has a crane and wheels and a thing".

5 year old: "Not very good, the colours are all bleargh, I don't like them".

So eh. These days I only buy the ones they like, I've got enough Technic sets slowly cracking in the loft, and too many unfinished MOCs.

Buy the sets for yourself, not for your kids, they don't deserve them if they talk about them that way :)

Haha, I'm only joking but well, I only buy sets this big and expensive for myself - would never let a kid play with them, I play with them myself :)

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Nice B-models, the new video is very good.

Still nothing new on the Fire Plane :(

The Crawler Crane and Merc Arocs are on my to-buy-list already.

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I definitely like the B model of the Crane more than the main! He lose one function but looks better!

The Arocs... well is the same cabin and arm for me...

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I know we are all hyped up about the summer sets now but i just quickly wanted to go back to the January sets, I haven't bought a Technic set in 5 years which is atrocious really but this winter wave was really good so yesterday i went and picked up the Arctic Truck and it was the most fun i have had building a Lego set ever ! The functionality is amazing, its big, it looks nice and i think its great for the money, so I'm really hooked on Technic at the minute, bye ! Bye other lego themes, Hello Technic !

These Summer sets really do look amazing and the functions and look of both of them are really fascinating and i cant wait to have a blast building them. !!!

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I would like to see the inspiration for the crane B model, it looks like a self erecting tower crane as it has no visible cab, but that is unusual as it is on a crawler base rather than a static base and it also has a grab. Although it could just be a crawler with a tower configuration but a grab would also be unusual for that.

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I would like to see the inspiration for the crane B model, it looks like a self erecting tower crane as it has no visible cab, but that is unusual as it is on a crawler base rather than a static base and it also has a grab. Although it could just be a crawler with a tower configuration but a grab would also be unusual for that.

Here is inspiration. From more known manufacturers, Spierings and Liebherr are producing these types of cranes, not very common, though. THe real ones do have a hook instead of the clams.

Spierings:

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Liebherr:

tower-crane-self-erecting-crawler-16233-4018758.jpg

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https://www.facebook...&type=2

Probably new video of crane and truck.

Hmmm, maybe just tired batteries, but i find the pneumatics very very slow... not really good playability, in my opinion.

Off: Don't people really have sense for making videos (even nowadays 720p is basic), or were they asked to not to hold the camera accurate, and make visible the whole subject? :hmpf_bad:

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Here is inspiration. From more known manufacturers, Spierings and Liebherr are producing these types of cranes, not very common, though. THe real ones do have a hook instead of the clams.

Thanks, the only self erectors I have seen are the small static ones we have at work. The top pic looks to be a large machine, that would be possibly a 5tonne panel and about 18m to the centre for placement if it meets the rear panel line, that would be better than a 50 tonne mobile.

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Hmmm, maybe just tired batteries, but i find the pneumatics very very slow... not really good playability, in my opinion.

Couple of options:

- low batteries;

- building fault with clamped air hose (look at the grill that is also a building fault);

- maybe the valves are not opened all the way;

- maybe the pump needs some time to build up pressure.

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Couple of options...

[trimmed] Agreed, all valid possibilities. :classic: Other options:

- pre-production pumps, tolerances imperfect (sticky seals)?

- maybe the pneumatics are just slow? The pneumatic performance on 8110 was also very poor.

A single cylinder small pump is inherently limited as a compressor: the total stroke volume is small, and relies on high speed to produce a decent operating pressure.

Plenty of MOCs solve this with more pumps, bigger pumps, external air supplies, or using the air-tank as a time-limited supply of high-pressure air.

It is harder to imagine those being used in an official set (the air-tank is an expensive part with minimal benefit, because once the tank is empty, there is a charging-cycle time during which the model is unplayable; this would push the box price up whilst damaging playability). :classic:

FWIW, the classic, and much-loved Air Tech Claw Rig / Compressor Truck had an identical issue with low speed pneumatics, so it's not new :classic:

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