January 22, 201114 yr many thanks!<BR><BR>hopefully we get sharper scans to read the parts amounts On my pc the scans look more sharp. if you pm your email i will send them to you if you want
January 22, 201114 yr The fourth part seems to be very useful. Compare it to barman's custom piece in this thread (second element). It's almost the same! I don't have the 8070 myself but I'm sure that this part will be used for the outputs of the differential at the rear axle intead of U-Joints. In 8070 this solution makes the rear axle 2 studs narrower compared to one using U-Joints. Someone should should test these parts for rigidity and if they perform well, we can use these parts for compact axles that are driven and steered! Limiting factors are the flimsy CV-Joints and the non-sufficient length of this new piece. Anyway, I think this part is an awesome addition to the current line-up
January 22, 201114 yr You know, I really don't like how the battery box just kind of hangs out of the back end of the cars. Shame they couldn't have figured out a way to hide it a bit better.
January 22, 201114 yr And the new part seems very likely designed for the Unimog also does this mean 4WD??? Edited January 25, 201114 yr by merman
January 22, 201114 yr The fourth part seems to be very useful. Compare it to barman's custom piece in this thread (second element). It's almost the same! I don't have the 8070 myself but I'm sure that this part will be used for the outputs of the differential at the rear axle intead of U-Joints. In 8070 this solution makes the rear axle 2 studs narrower compared to one using U-Joints. Wow, those do look like his. I do not think that those new pieces are going to be used at all in the rear axles. There are already 4 steering knuckles in the inventory, so those wouldn't work with them. Plus there are only 2 of them from the parts inventory. More than likely they are used in the door functions somehow. I also see 2 9L steering links in the inventory. I assume that is what pushes the doors outwards when they go up.
January 22, 201114 yr You know, I really don't like how the battery box just kind of hangs out of the back end of the cars. Shame they couldn't have figured out a way to hide it a bit better. I kinda like how they place them.. with the 8043 it looks like the top of the engine and with the B model of the 8090 it could be the gas tank.. I also really like the way it fits the B model of the 8043.
January 22, 201114 yr I think all 4 CV-joints and the 2 new pieces are used on the rear axle. Older technic sets used 2 U-joints joined together to form a CV-joint. This set is RWD, so would require 4 U-joints (two for each wheel). There are only 2 U-joints in the inventory, so the new pieces must be used instead.
January 22, 201114 yr I think all 4 CV-joints and the 2 new pieces are used on the rear axle. Older technic sets used 2 U-joints joined together to form a CV-joint. This set is RWD, so would require 4 U-joints (two for each wheel). There are only 2 U-joints in the inventory, so the new pieces must be used instead. No. With the new control arms and steering knuckles combined with the CV joints, it is no longer required to use 2 U-Joints for each axle. The 8297 Offroader is an example of this technique with it's rear axle set-up. Lego isn't going to look to complicate something that already works perfectly. These new parts are going to be used in some other way.
January 22, 201114 yr More pictures please Can you give us the numbers at the backside of the instructionbooks?
January 22, 201114 yr More pictures please Can you give us the numbers at the backside of the instructionbooks? What numbers mate?? That was more time consuming than I thought! Power functions run smooth, 1st gear - left door 2nd gear - right door 3rd gear - spoiler 4th gear - Bonnet Edited January 22, 201114 yr by junglistjoey
January 22, 201114 yr What numbers mate?? The numbers on the left lowerbackside. These are uasually a 7 digit number. With a bit of luck we can find copies of these in structions on the internet. I'll give you an example: BTW great model! Edited January 22, 201114 yr by JunkstyleGio
January 22, 201114 yr Indeed! Heres the numbers, Manual 1 - 4625412 Manual 2 - 4625416 Manual 3 - 4625418
January 22, 201114 yr Thanks! Can we expect a little movie too? Can't wait to get my hand on my copies too... But I have too wait until feb 25th.. So now I'm counting the days...
January 22, 201114 yr No. With the new control arms and steering knuckles combined with the CV joints, it is no longer required to use 2 U-Joints for each axle. The 8297 Offroader is an example of this technique with it's rear axle set-up. Lego isn't going to look to complicate something that already works perfectly. These new parts are going to be used in some other way. My mistake, older Technic sets only used 1 U-joint + a CV joint, but this does not 'work perfectly'. It is unrealistic. The output of bent a U-joint does not spin at a constant speed with the input (unless two are coupled and are both bent at the same angle). So Lego have made a new CV joint to be more realistic. Anyway, from the new pictures, it seems I am right.
January 22, 201114 yr Well, I stand corrected. It appears that the universal joints are not being used in the rear axles. You guys were right after all. So they are using the CV joints axle hole to axle hole then with that new piece plugged into the differential box. Very intriguing. I also see that the rear shocks are on the outside of the rear control arms. I prefer shocks to be centered rather than favor one side. I can also see why we have not seen too many rear end pictures of the car. What numbers mate?? That was more time consuming than I thought! Power functions run smooth, 1st gear - left door 2nd gear - right door 3rd gear - spoiler 4th gear - Bonnet You wouldn't happen to have a black liftarm left over would you?
January 22, 201114 yr And again thanks.... Love those unedited movies.... Now we can see how the model works...
January 22, 201114 yr This 8070 seems to be very similar to 8297 : very interesting design inside, with many gears, complex mechanisms, etc. But unfortunately, it also looks boring to play with. :/ Thank you for the video though. And even if this model won't be my favourite set, I'm a bit impatient to get it (just like every new set actually ). Edited January 22, 201114 yr by Anio
January 22, 201114 yr Functions work faster than expected! I also wonder why there are 2 extra CV joints...
January 22, 201114 yr I will get it at some point, as I like to collect technic sets, but wow, what a pointless use of power functions, I think more people would have been impressed if that medium motor had been used to operate the front steering. Even if they had left a big hole at the back for us to retro fit a second motor for the drive train. I hope there is a white friction cog in their somewhere to prevent that little motor grinding all those gears when they reach their limits :-) Paul
January 22, 201114 yr Unimog suspension anyone? This way the suspension can be made narrower, because cardans are too wide. Makes ence, if front axle uses a 7L steering rack, the only way for rear axle to be same width is to make suspension narrower with this part! Also explains 4 CV's and the u joints are proboably for steering wheel. Edited January 22, 201114 yr by Zblj
January 22, 201114 yr I hope there is a white friction cog in their somewhere to prevent that little motor grinding all those gears when they reach their limits :-) There is... Check page 5 on this thread
January 22, 201114 yr Just seen this posted at TechnicBricks. Makes perfect sense now. What this piece is actually doing is creating the pivot point at the exact spot where the upper and lower arms move at instead of adding an extra stud that the 3length universal joint does. And it is doing all of this without adding any extra width to the entire axle assembly. I just hope that more sets both Technic and Non Technic incorporate this new part somehow, otherwise these are going to be even more expensive to get than a CV joint. I REALLY wish this part existed a few years ago when the new redesigned steering arms came out in the 8297. This part keeps the drive axle assembly width as narrow as possible while keeping the movement of the suspension true...
January 22, 201114 yr Now that I have seen a video showing the functions, I'm sold. Running to my nearest store when this comes out. Oh, and I may eventually add power drive to it, which I am sure many are planing to do. Let's see it I can do it with minimal modifications....
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