mostlytechnic Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 Ok, let's talk. Here's my thoughts on a few people. Andrew Clark, The Jock Obviously still under suspicion by many. After the wrong result on his investigation, what are we supposed to think? Since then he's claimed to be blocked, but that could also easily be cover so that he doesn't have to make any "results" up. Mary Jane, The Jock I know a few of you suspect me. I did change dramatically a couple days ago from quiet to very vocal. I'm just trying to help, since our previous "leaders" didn't turn out so well and have largely gone quiet. Brian Johnson, The Geek Making claims to be in contact with our blocker, but hard to know if that's true. Adriano Parbritzzi, The Exchange Student Been very busy analyzing and talking to everyone. I'd sure like to hear any more details he can share about the results of his survey, see if there's anything there helpful for today. Personally I've appreciated his activity. Claire Standish, The Prep Like Andrew, still under suspicion after the wrong investigation. I do find it curious how after all her posturing and statements like "if I'm wrong you can vote me out" that she's still here. I know I'm not convinced of her loyalty to the Academy at this point. Everyone else - mostly pretty quiet. Either just not sure what to think (like I was at first) or scum trying to fly under the radar. Not sure this has actually been helpful, but hopefully at least we can spur some conversation and catch some scum again today!
LegoDad Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 That's a good list of students there, a lot of townfolk you have IMO. Andrew and I got a lot of bad press after the botched investigation(as did others, who have ended up town), and after class is done, that outcome will be my first question to our teachers. Because if that was a true investigation result, it was WAY too vague for us beginners. I was so sure of that particular night result that to prove my town worth I made that statement, and as the kids say, it was an epic fail.(I abhor that overused term now). I'm still here because cooler heads prevailed and it was correctly seen that there was a bad read on the investigation result. If you want to vote for me, that's fine with me, I told you I would take no offense to it because it was deserved. Of course, you'd be voting out ANOTHER town, but that's your choice. While I've been quiet, I'm still looking at those that have provided NOTHING over the course of 6 days now.
badboytje88 Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 I really really have a problem with Andrew and Claire. This game is supposed to be simple so if you are the investigator and you investigate someone you should get a straight result. The person is either town or he is scum (or third party for that matters). I find it highly illogical that the investigator could be an insane investigator. I also find it illogical that there has been, in what way soever, tampered with the investigation results. So to me our so claimed investigator in't an investigator at all. So Andrew please do explain otherwise you'll have my vote. If Andrew manages to give us a good reason for his bad investigation results, which I highly doubt. Claire will receive my vote.
jimmynick Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 I did not receive any information from the "Blocker" today. You still haven't told us if you contacted your blocker. Let's look at Mary Jane's list of suspects one by one: Andrew claimed to have been blocked on Night Four with this little exchange: Well boys and girls, I'm officially buggered? My investigation last night (no point in hiding that anymore) turned up nothing, nada, zilch, zero. For some reason I couldn't get out of my room. I'm guessing this could be the work of a blocker? Yeah, that's a blocker. Now we know that Cameron is town, I think this conversation is the result of actually being blocked in the night (wondering what the night action meant), and if he were scum, I doubt he'd be thick enough to claim to be blocked a second night in a row. Also, if you're scum claiming investigator, you know who everyone is so it's easy to give a real result. I think Andrew is town. I'll get to you at the end of this post. Brian claims he's in contact with the blocker, but he's slow in telling us what happened last night. Nevertheless, I believe him. Why? The claimed blocker blocked Shawna on the two nights in which there were no scum kills. Shawna turned up scum. And Shawna claimed serial killer (which was a lie, but she claimed a killing role). I think that goes together properly. I think the blocker is town. If Brian were scum, he probably would not have told us the blocker's result. Thus, I think Brian is town. Adriano was very helpful yesterday with his voting analysis and little suspicions survey. I also don't think a scum would ask people questions in PM like Adriano did. I think Adriano is town. I don't know about Claire - no huge scum-vibes and I had a town read on her before the Simone fiasco. She's been lying low, trying not to get lynched. I think Claire is town. But if you want to lynch her, go ahead. Mary Jane, for being so interested in the identity of the blocker yesterday, for seeming to deny Shawna was the scum killer today and for pointing the finger at two people I can logically deduce are town and two people I would defend as town, I think you're the scum we're after. We are at 12 students today. That is probably a 4 / 8 or a 5 / 7 split. We need to expel scum, and fast. So I'm going to start a very slowly rolling ball. Vote: Mary Jane (mostlytechnic)
badboytje88 Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 I shall too vote, but my vote goes to someone else. Vote: Andrew Clark, The Jock (clanure)
mostlytechnic Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 Woah! Hold on there! I did NOT deny Shawna was scum or the scum killer! Heck, I was the first one to vote for her yesterday! I was asking for clarification on how things work when someone with a night ability is expelled - I want to know if Cameron getting "black killed" could have been Shawna on her way out, if her ability could have been passed to someone else, or if we have a second killer out there. I'm here in the academy because I don't know the details on things like this. I'm here to learn (and expel scum!) Also, my list of people was just the interesting folk, not necessarily people I suspect. I've been talking (well, I've sent PMs but he hasn't been on to answer them yet) with Adriano today and personally told him he's in my top couple people of trustworthyness. Nothing in what I said was meant to indicate I thought he (or Brian for that matter) were scum. I'm still very suspicious of Claire and Andrew (like Jeanie said, I have trouble believing that the investigation result could have been confusing enough to wrongly implicate someone), but I haven't made a vote yet because I'm not convinced either way on them. However, at this point I also haven't seen anyone else scummier to earn a vote either. Allison, anything else I can do to reassure you of my loyalties?
jimmynick Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 Wait a second - that post came across as musings on people you thought were scummy, and that's what really pushed me to vote for you. Seems like we have a lot of misunderstandings. We have 36 hours left in the day, so if you didn't mean to accuse those people: Unvote: Mary Jane (mostlytechnic)
Mencot Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 Ok, let's talk. Here's my thoughts on a few people. Andrew Clark, The Jock Obviously still under suspicion by many. After the wrong result on his investigation, what are we supposed to think? Since then he's claimed to be blocked, but that could also easily be cover so that he doesn't have to make any "results" up. Mary Jane, The Jock I know a few of you suspect me. I did change dramatically a couple days ago from quiet to very vocal. I'm just trying to help, since our previous "leaders" didn't turn out so well and have largely gone quiet. Brian Johnson, The Geek Making claims to be in contact with our blocker, but hard to know if that's true. Adriano Parbritzzi, The Exchange Student Been very busy analyzing and talking to everyone. I'd sure like to hear any more details he can share about the results of his survey, see if there's anything there helpful for today. Personally I've appreciated his activity. Claire Standish, The Prep Like Andrew, still under suspicion after the wrong investigation. I do find it curious how after all her posturing and statements like "if I'm wrong you can vote me out" that she's still here. I know I'm not convinced of her loyalty to the Academy at this point. Everyone else - mostly pretty quiet. Either just not sure what to think (like I was at first) or scum trying to fly under the radar. Not sure this has actually been helpful, but hopefully at least we can spur some conversation and catch some scum again today! I also have a feeling that all the people here are town, ofcourse Claire and Andrew seem suspicious becuase of the actions on previous day(and need to keep an eye on) but I think the person who will be trying to starting a bandvagons today is most likely scum... whoever it will be
Purpearljellyblob Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 I have got a pm from the "Blocker" and this "Blocker" targeted the person who made post #27. IMO, this result only shows this person is not the killer, but could still be either a town or scum.
PsyKater Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 I am still very busy, I apologize. I am very clueless and hope that the town can stay together. Remember the scum only need to convince a few townies to vote for another townie which will bring them their victory. I was asked for the survey results and I love to reveal them. I had no access to my laptop and my notes on it and I can only afford some minutes now. But I want to give us something to discuss. I added another group, but remember that the group think is something I came up with. Try to read it on your own. Results Jeanie Beuller | Bobby Busch ||| Andrew Clark ||||||| (7) Lucy Emerson | Cameron Frye |||||||| (8) Burton Guster ||| Mary Jane |||| Brian Johnson || Chuckie Miller |||| Davey Osborne || Adriano Parbrizzi || Allison Reynolds |||| Shawna Spencer |||||||| (8) Claire Standish ||||| (5) Please note that Andrew (whoms notes fit perfectly with the blue group) gave his answers after the results were revealed. I am really not sure yet who to vote for today.
Clanure Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 I really really have a problem with Andrew and Claire. This game is supposed to be simple so if you are the investigator and you investigate someone you should get a straight result. The person is either town or he is scum (or third party for that matters). I find it highly illogical that the investigator could be an insane investigator. I also find it illogical that there has been, in what way soever, tampered with the investigation results. So to me our so claimed investigator in't an investigator at all. So Andrew please do explain otherwise you'll have my vote. If Andrew manages to give us a good reason for his bad investigation results, which I highly doubt. Claire will receive my vote. And what reason would you like? I've been as honest as I know how to be. I can't quote directly (against school policy), so everything has to be in my own words. I've told you as best I know how what I interpreted and obviously I interpreted wrong, but given the information I had (and even 20/20 hindsight) I still don't know what exactly to make of that one night's result. To be honest, I don't care if you lynch me. I'd like to say you'd be shooting yourself in the foot, but what with being blocked and all I'm pretty much on the same playing field as the rest of the town. We are flying blind now (unless we can lynch the scum blocker). Jeanie, I'd love to vote for you, but I know where your loyalties are, so I'm not going to. Hopefully we can get some others talking and narrow down on a bettter suspect.
LegoDad Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 I have got a pm from the "Blocker" and this "Blocker" targeted the person who made post #27. IMO, this result only shows this person is not the killer, but could still be either a town or scum. It's good to prove I have no actions, only backing up the claims I have made. I am still very busy, I apologize. I am very clueless and hope that the town can stay together. Remember the scum only need to convince a few townies to vote for another townie which will bring them their victory. I was asked for the survey results and I love to reveal them. I had no access to my laptop and my notes on it and I can only afford some minutes now. But I want to give us something to discuss. I added another group, but remember that the group think is something I came up with. Try to read it on your own. Results Jeanie Beuller | Bobby Busch ||| Andrew Clark ||||||| (7) Lucy Emerson | Cameron Frye |||||||| (8) Burton Guster ||| Mary Jane |||| Brian Johnson || Chuckie Miller |||| Davey Osborne || Adriano Parbrizzi || Allison Reynolds |||| Shawna Spencer |||||||| (8) Claire Standish ||||| (5) Please note that Andrew (whoms notes fit perfectly with the blue group) gave his answers after the results were revealed. I am really not sure yet who to vote for today. Two very, very quiet people that I have expressed my concerns about in pm to people several days ago line up very similar to our recent scum killer. Not surprising to me.
Hammerstein NWC Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 Am I to take it we've dropped voting patterns in favour of who people were suspicious of on a certain day now being an indicator of who is or isn't trustworthy. Some quiet people have been trying to help investigations through pm? I think if you are going to accuse people Claire you should either put up or shut up. Name names please. How about a vote even Claire?
jimmynick Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 One could say the same about the red group. And that if you try to break it down to even smaller groups, then statistics breaks meaningful analysis (pink group - what does that even mean now?). One could also say that the town blocker was suspicious enough of Claire (in the red / yellow group) to block her in the night. I don't know what to do yet.
LegoDad Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 Am I to take it we've dropped voting patterns in favour of who people were suspicious of on a certain day now being an indicator of who is or isn't trustworthy. Some quiet people have been trying to help investigations through pm? I think if you are going to accuse people Claire you should either put up or shut up. Name names please. How about a vote even Claire? Touched a nerve, did I? I didn't need to name names, it was right there for anybody that isn't colorblind. You and Chuckie have been quiet for 6 days now, I don't trust people like that, it's that simple. I'm not throwing a vote out there because that's all I was going to imply. I don't know what the damn colors mean any more than the next guy(or girl). My personal opinion is that most that fit the red and blue categories are town. And Adrianno.
Hammerstein NWC Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 Touched a nerve? It's obvious to see what you are implying but you don't seem to have the courage to actually say it. I've been assisting Adrianno whenever I can. I was one of the last people to respond to Adrianno and I voted honestly, I was suspicious of you right until you.put your neck on the chopping block. I still don't think you are scum so I won't be voting for you but if you are going to call people out then say their names don't hide behind colour schemes.
Purpearljellyblob Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 Now we have the results from Adriano, perhaps we should be observing weird behaviors or any change in behaviors in any of the students here. I just feel that Claire is trying to fish out scum. The colors are just bait, and we should observe any interesting responses.
LegoDad Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 Now we have the results from Adriano, perhaps we should be observing weird behaviors or any change in behaviors in any of the students here. I just feel that Claire is trying to fish out scum. The colors are just bait, and we should observe any interesting responses. You're darn right I am. It has been fun to watch people go absolutely nuts about numbers, colors, movie names, brat packs, you name it. I gave up a long time ago sniffing out scum with my intuition, because I was wrong more than once. I have my beliefs who I think are scum simply because I have a list of those that I believe to be town. My vote will come down to Bob, Jeannie, Chuckie, or Burton because I feel those are the best bets for a scum lynch. I'm sure I'm wrong on more than one of them because nobody will trust me with any information to clear them anymore. So I go about voting blindly on my feelings and people get defensive and start saying I'm leading the bandwagon to get a lynch again.
jimmynick Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 You know what? Jeanie hasn't said anything of significance since Day Three. Today, she goes off on Claire and Andrew because of the failed lynch on Simone three days ago. The best explanation for the "scum" result on Simone is a frame. That takes all the blame of Andrew and lets him stay a townie. I already explained why I think Andrew is town: Now we know that Cameron is town, I think this conversation is the result of actually being blocked in the night (wondering what the night action meant), and if he were scum, I doubt he'd be thick enough to claim to be blocked a second night in a row. Also, if you're scum claiming investigator, you know who everyone is so it's easy to give a real result. I think Andrew is town. So I'll stand up for Andrew (I'll also stand up for Claire). Jeanie stood up for Claire on Day Four: Let's not vote for Claire. She's not black mesa and we all know it. They just used her to force a lynch upon us. If we vote Claire out, black mesa was in controll of another lynch. Lynching is not ment for punishing people who were misled. But now Claire is your 2nd best suspect, after someone who is almost certainly town (and the investigator to boot)? Now yesterday after the revelation Shawna had been blocked, Jeanie still didn't know for whom to vote: So far, most likely to get my vote are: Adriano, Shawna, Chuckie and Allison PsyKater, on 27 March 2013 - 10:36 AM, said: So you don't want to vote for Shawna, or do you? I might consider it but the lynches so far have been unsuccessful and I'd much rather vote for someone who contributed to the previous lynches as it is most likely the town core, who everyone is listening to, is team scum Shawna had claimed serial killer. She was the ideal lynch. Why waver? And now Jeanie has gone and voted for Andrew instead of explaining or following up on her suspicions of Adriano, Chuckie and me. I know Andrew got a "town" result when he investigated you, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's because you're the godfather. I'm surprised I didn't notice your inconsistent suspicions and lack of contribution earlier than now. So I Vote: Jeanie Bueller (badboytje88)
LegoDad Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 You know what? Jeanie hasn't said anything of significance since Day Three. Today, she goes off on Claire and Andrew because of the failed lynch on Simone three days ago. The best explanation for the "scum" result on Simone is a frame. That takes all the blame of Andrew and lets him stay a townie. I already explained why I think Andrew is town: So I'll stand up for Andrew (I'll also stand up for Claire). Jeanie stood up for Claire on Day Four: But now Claire is your 2nd best suspect, after someone who is almost certainly town (and the investigator to boot)? Now yesterday after the revelation Shawna had been blocked, Jeanie still didn't know for whom to vote: Shawna had claimed serial killer. She was the ideal lynch. Why waver? And now Jeanie has gone and voted for Andrew instead of explaining or following up on her suspicions of Adriano, Chuckie and me. I know Andrew got a "town" result when he investigated you, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's because you're the godfather. I'm surprised I didn't notice your inconsistent suspicions and lack of contribution earlier than now. So I Vote: Jeanie Bueller (badboytje88) This wouldn't surprise me at all.
Esurient Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 That's a good list of students there, a lot of townfolk you have IMO. Andrew and I got a lot of bad press after the botched investigation(as did others, who have ended up town), and after class is done, that outcome will be my first question to our teachers. Because if that was a true investigation result, it was WAY too vague for us beginners. I was so sure of that particular night result that to prove my town worth I made that statement, and as the kids say, it was an epic fail.(I abhor that overused term now). I'm still here because cooler heads prevailed and it was correctly seen that there was a bad read on the investigation result. If you want to vote for me, that's fine with me, I told you I would take no offense to it because it was deserved. Of course, you'd be voting out ANOTHER town, but that's your choice. While I've been quiet, I'm still looking at those that have provided NOTHING over the course of 6 days now. It's good to prove I have no actions, only backing up the claims I have made. Two very, very quiet people that I have expressed my concerns about in pm to people several days ago line up very similar to our recent scum killer. Not surprising to me. It is fair to say whatever you have been doing since Day 1, is the job of the day vig. I guess it is the job of a day vig to take out quiet people. If they were town, they are going to be useless anyway, and scum, nice one for picking up scum that tries to fly under the radar. The day vig took out Newton and it explains a lot why she did it. In an ideal situation, the day vig will take care of all the quiet people and the Townies will find scum. Since we lost the day vig, our lynches have been focused on quiet people and we are not actually spending a lot of time finding scum through analysing behaviour. I also have a feeling that all the people here are town, ofcourse Claire and Andrew seem suspicious becuase of the actions on previous day(and need to keep an eye on) but I think the person who will be trying to starting a bandvagons today is most likely scum... whoever it will be Couldn't agree more.
Darkdragon Posted April 3, 2013 Author Posted April 3, 2013 Jeanie Bueller (badboytje88) - 1 vote (jamesn) Andrew Clark (clanure) - 1 vote (badboytje88) There are 23 hours left in the day.
badboytje88 Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 And what reason would you like? I've been as honest as I know how to be. I can't quote directly (against school policy), so everything has to be in my own words. I've told you as best I know how what I interpreted and obviously I interpreted wrong, but given the information I had (and even 20/20 hindsight) I still don't know what exactly to make of that one night's result. To be honest, I don't care if you lynch me. I'd like to say you'd be shooting yourself in the foot, but what with being blocked and all I'm pretty much on the same playing field as the rest of the town. We are flying blind now (unless we can lynch the scum blocker). Jeanie, I'd love to vote for you, but I know where your loyalties are, so I'm not going to. Hopefully we can get some others talking and narrow down on a bettter suspect. What you are just now saying is all sorts of wrong. The investigator never ever has to interpret the investigation restult as the results are dead clear. You are told if someone is town or someone is scum. You know where my loyalties lie because you are scum and you know who is town. It is easy for a member of team scum to claim investigator. They know who is a good guy and who isn't. I'd dare say you are not, and never were an investigator. You know what? Jeanie hasn't said anything of significance since Day Three. Today, she goes off on Claire and Andrew because of the failed lynch on Simone three days ago. The best explanation for the "scum" result on Simone is a frame. That takes all the blame of Andrew and lets him stay a townie. I already explained why I think Andrew is town: So I'll stand up for Andrew (I'll also stand up for Claire). Jeanie stood up for Claire on Day Four: But now Claire is your 2nd best suspect, after someone who is almost certainly town (and the investigator to boot)? Now yesterday after the revelation Shawna had been blocked, Jeanie still didn't know for whom to vote: Shawna had claimed serial killer. She was the ideal lynch. Why waver? And now Jeanie has gone and voted for Andrew instead of explaining or following up on her suspicions of Adriano, Chuckie and me. I know Andrew got a "town" result when he investigated you, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's because you're the godfather. I'm surprised I didn't notice your inconsistent suspicions and lack of contribution earlier than now. So I Vote: Jeanie Bueller (badboytje88) Can't a person have a change of heart? I don't know if you noticed but I was a part of the lynch of Shawna yesterday. I highly doubte these two are town. They clame to be the investigator but how far have they helped this town so far?
Purpearljellyblob Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 IMO I don't think Jeanie and Andrew are good lynches today. These people are highly suspicious Bob, Chuckie, Burton (which is pretty similar to Claire's list of suspicious people), and Allison. The last time I voted for Allison, the following events happened: 1. Allison unvoted Andrew and voted for me. Day 4 #118 That sounds very reasonable, Andrew. I understand that you can't tell us exactly what you were told. I never said I was set on you being scum - I just thought you were the most likely to be scum out of you, Cameron and Claire. So I Unvote: Andrew Clark (Clanure) And now I have to throw my vote at someone else. I don't want to hammer John (does he have 7 votes now?), and Adriano has pointed some interesting weirdnesses out about Brian's behavior, so I will Vote: Brian Johnson (purpearljellyblob) 2. And I was targeted by Shawna the scum's killer that very night. Day 5 #62 I don't know who expelled Craig but I tried targeting Brian as well during last night (sorry Bro, I didn't want to)
Hammerstein NWC Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 It seems to me that a lot of "quiet people" are talking now but to be honest isn't that to be expected? We are getting down to the point where being quiet is most likely to get you put in a crosshairs. The truth is though it's a shame some of the "loud" people weren't a bit quieter earlier doors. How many townies got lynched by vociferous so called Solid townies? I think if we go back to voting patterns then you are in pretty precarious position to be pointing fingers. By your own admission Claire so far your hunches have sucked, Maybe, just maybe one of the wrong people has got in your ear. Let's look at the stats another way - Who are the top two left on the list out of the most suspicious people ? Why what a surprise it's Andrew Claire Make your own judgements from that...
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