Numbuh1Nerd Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Y'know what? I know that everyone's talking about X-Men, but I've really got to say, when it comes to DC they should be taking notes from Batman: The Brave and the Bold. I know a lot of people don't like the show, I was previously in that camp and I can see where you're coming from, but you cannot deny that they managed to use a crap-ton of obscure and less popular characters into colorful, original, and relatively entertaining stories. LEGO could just as easily throw together their usual kid-friendly stories, but instead of just using Batman and a "repeat offender" villain, you make Batman, another less popular character, and another less popular villain. Instead of thinking "Batman is the most popular character in the DC Universe, let's only sell Batman.", think "Batman is the most popular character in the DC Universe, let's use Batman as an anchor to make other characters more popular." Marvel seems to be doing it, too, though they're mostly starting in the TV shows. Quote
Colossus Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 The Batman: B and B scheme is an excellent idea! Hopefully, DC/TLG has started this, seeing how the new Batman sets include new minifigs of The Flash, Man-bat, and Batgirl; and somewhat new designs for Nightwing and The Riddler. Heck, maybe break away from making yet another Bat-related vehicle, and make sets based on the JLA's Javelin, a Plastic Man set with brick-built shapes/objects Plas has morphed into, or Blue Beetle's beetle aircraft. Yeah, they're a stretch, but I can dream. Quote
JerseyManiac1 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 What is the hold up with the other 2 Batman sets? Quote
just2good Posted January 9, 2014 Author Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) What is the hold up with the other 2 Batman sets? EDIT: Oh, just understood this. It's odd, but I guess TLG wants to focus on The LEGO Movie products for now. Edited January 9, 2014 by just2good Quote
Mr. Elijah Timms Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) What is the hold up with the other 2 Batman sets? Agreed-- been looking for the Penguin set all week, and haven't seen a trace of the Steamroller anywhere... Edited January 9, 2014 by Mr. Elijah Timms Quote
Russles Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 On the uk site the roller doesn't appear under themes... You have to search for it to appear and buy it. Quote
Oky Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Y'know what? I know that everyone's talking about X-Men, but I've really got to say, when it comes to DC they should be taking notes from Batman: The Brave and the Bold. I know a lot of people don't like the show, I was previously in that camp and I can see where you're coming from, but you cannot deny that they managed to use a crap-ton of obscure and less popular characters into colorful, original, and relatively entertaining stories. LEGO could just as easily throw together their usual kid-friendly stories, but instead of just using Batman and a "repeat offender" villain, you make Batman, another less popular character, and another less popular villain. Instead of thinking "Batman is the most popular character in the DC Universe, let's only sell Batman.", think "Batman is the most popular character in the DC Universe, let's use Batman as an anchor to make other characters more popular." Marvel seems to be doing it, too, though they're mostly starting in the TV shows. I agree, they really should start doing this, especially now that they have (re)done most of Batman's major villains, allies, and vehicles. Sets like the Aquaman and Flash sets were already a step in the right direction, except they should have used new DC villains instead of new variations of Bat-villains. Of course I would prefer it if they ditched Batman completely, especially now that they are resorting to silly variations like Arctic and Scuba Batman and to stupid vehicles like Penguin's Duckmobile and whatever the heck that flying thing in the Steamroller set is (I refuse to call it a Batwing). They have clearly run out of ideas for Batman sets, so I really hope they focus more on the rest of the DC Universe from now on. I understand that sets with Batman sell better, so if they need to throw Batman into the sets to sell them, so be it, but please Lego, give us something other than Bat-villains and -vehicles already! Sorry for that little rant, but I'm just really disappointed with the DC side of Lego Super Heroes so far. EDIT: Oh, and as for the Duplo sets, if they turn out anything like Bobskink's creation, I look forward to seeing them. Quote
Darth Punk Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 EDIT: Oh, just understood this. It's odd, but I guess TLG wants to focus on The LEGO Movie products for now. I think it's the other way around, TLG wants everyone here to focus on the lego movie products. Quote
Numbuh1Nerd Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 The Batman: B and B scheme is an excellent idea! Hopefully, DC/TLG has started this, seeing how the new Batman sets include new minifigs of The Flash, Man-bat, and Batgirl; and somewhat new designs for Nightwing and The Riddler. Heck, maybe break away from making yet another Bat-related vehicle, and make sets based on the JLA's Javelin, a Plastic Man set with brick-built shapes/objects Plas has morphed into, or Blue Beetle's beetle aircraft. Yeah, they're a stretch, but I can dream. I'm way into that. I'm surprised that they haven't tried that with Plastic Man already, given they really only have to do new prints and could do the same thing with Mr. Incredible in the Marvel line. Even Imaginext has made the Javelin, although they've actually done a bunch of different DC characters and not just Batman and sometimes Superman (frankly, I'd like to see them take a few pages from their book and make Gorilla Grodd and Black Manta) EDIT: Oh, and as for the Duplo sets, if they turn out anything like Bobskink's creation, I look forward to seeing them. Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Duplo sets are all based on like the Dark Knight Returns and Death in the Family stuff? Just making all the sets really dark and traumatizing? Quote
CorneliusMurdock Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 BrickRally, I am moving your post to the "Future Superhero Set Ideas" thread. It better fits the discussion there. Just letting you know. Quote
Capt. Redblade Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 I don't mind all the attention Ol' Cape-and-Cowl's been getting (I'm playing favourites here), but it would be nice to see more variation on DC's part, and I think the B: TBATB approach would be a smart one. I think the Superman set in the 2012 lineup was definitely the right idea. It allowed them to show off different characters while still being fairly recognizable to a mainstream audience. If they even just did a bunch of sets with Superman and another hero, it would be an improvement. I'm not much of a Superman guy, but I'd take a Lego Brainiac if it were offered. And you can argue they're sort of doing it already, with the Aquaman and Flash sets. Flash is, I think, slightly less-known to a mainstream audience, and Aquaman is seen as a joke character (which is total BS). So, yeah, the Brave and the Bold approach is definitely a good idea. Although, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there rumblings of a GL set a few pages back? If that comes to fruition then we could take it as a sign that they're ready to start (and possibly already in the process of) branching out. Quote
montgocloud Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Duplo sets are all based on like the Dark Knight Returns and Death in the Family stuff? Just making all the sets really dark and traumatizing? I totally agree! Give me a Batarang-in-the-eye-half-dead Duplo Joker and that'll make my day! Or even better, how about Ronald Reagan! The extremely ironic thing is that the Duplo stuff may be based off of the "New" 52 designs since DC wants to force it down all of our throats so bad. Quote
mulletwing Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 I'm way into that. I'm surprised that they haven't tried that with Plastic Man already, given they really only have to do new prints and could do the same thing with Mr. Incredible in the Marvel line. Even Imaginext has made the Javelin, although they've actually done a bunch of different DC characters and not just Batman and sometimes Superman (frankly, I'd like to see them take a few pages from their book and make Gorilla Grodd and Black Manta) I had a look at the Imaginext line and they've also not bothered with Ra's al Ghul either. Quote
Colossus Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 When I heard about Aquaman being included in a Batman set, I figured Black Manta was an obvious choice to be the villain. However, they went with Mr. Freeze. Yeesh. It seems DC assumes nobody can make the mental leap to appreciate a character other than Batman or Superman. Meanwhile, Tony Stark has become a household name, and Marvel's next movie features a machine-gun toting, talking raccoon. Quote
ianmrid Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Looking forward to seeing what they have on show at London - have managed to get a press pass again which means a Lego tour - but it sucks we can't take pics (althogh it's obviously understandable!). Last year they had all the Iron Man sets - with stickers covering up certain info - the baddies name, the fact it was Heartbreaker armour - but this is mainly to prevent film spoilers rather than Lego being cagey. I'm crossing my fingers that the Marvel sets will be there! Quote
Numbuh1Nerd Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 I totally agree! Give me a Batarang-in-the-eye-half-dead Duplo Joker and that'll make my day! Or even better, how about Ronald Reagan! The extremely ironic thing is that the Duplo stuff may be based off of the "New" 52 designs since DC wants to force it down all of our throats so bad. If they're going for New 52, maybe we'll get Joker with his face cut off? :P Quote
Hoschiebaer Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 I agree, they really should start doing this, especially now that they have (re)done most of Batman's major villains, allies, and vehicles. Sets like the Aquaman and Flash sets were already a step in the right direction, except they should have used new DC villains instead of new variations of Bat-villains. Of course I would prefer it if they ditched Batman completely, especially now that they are resorting to silly variations like Arctic and Scuba Batman and to stupid vehicles like Penguin's Duckmobile and whatever the heck that flying thing in the Steamroller set is (I refuse to call it a Batwing). They have clearly run out of ideas for Batman sets, so I really hope they focus more on the rest of the DC Universe from now on. I understand that sets with Batman sell better, so if they need to throw Batman into the sets to sell them, so be it, but please Lego, give us something other than Bat-villains and -vehicles already! Sorry for that little rant, but I'm just really disappointed with the DC side of Lego Super Heroes so far. i think your right for the most part. i didnt buy the arctic batman set, because i think the white suit looks crap - but i really have to disagree concerning pinguins duckmobile. it reminds me of the one from the tim burton's batman and i think its hillarious to have it in the set (just needs some wheels now). the bigger sets however have only big vehicles that i dislike, maybe except for the steamroller. on the other side (marvel) i had hopes for more than one x-men set. it is kinda disappointing to get another magneto (or maybe yet another wolverine?). i might be a little biased there, cause i dont have a clue about guardians of the galaxy (yet?). Quote
legomtron Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Seriosly...........spiderman does not need a tricicle!!!!!!!!!! But as for copter , thats pretty cool.But the hidra tank is pretty blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. :cry_sad: :thumbdown: but i love flash and the batmobile!!! :sweet: :sweet: !!!!!! Quote
Luke Styer Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 I knew someone would bring that up! It's actually just because I like the figure. And I suppose the character as well, even if he's getting overused recently. It is a very nice figure. And the minifigure has only been in one set, so even if the character is overused, the minifig isn't. Quote
Luke Styer Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Seriosly...........spiderman does not need a tricicle!!!!!!!!!! But as for copter , thats pretty cool. No, he really doesn't. I like the copter design, though I would prefer a less Spider-Man-specific color scheme. But the hidra tank is pretty blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. :cry_sad: :thumbdown: I like the Hydra tank. I think it has the sort of semi-real-semi-fake look that a lot of comic book vehicles share. Quote
Dr Axels Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 No, he really doesn't. I like the copter design, though I would prefer a less Spider-Man-specific color scheme. I agree with the color scheme. Too much bright red and blue. I personally would've liked to see a LEGO version of the SHIELD jet used by Spider-Man and his team to get around. Quote
Freddy Bricker Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 I totally agree! Give me a Batarang-in-the-eye-half-dead Duplo Joker and that'll make my day! Or even better, how about Ronald Reagan! The extremely ironic thing is that the Duplo stuff may be based off of the "New" 52 designs since DC wants to force it down all of our throats so bad. What else base it off of? A reboot that hasn't been making comics since 2011? The new 52 is their current line of comics, what else to do but advertise it, I mean really, at this point it'd be stupid to put costume designs for characters that haven't appeared in those variants for around 2 years. I say just have some classic designs and then a bit of made up variants, to avoid this type of problem altogether. Quote
BrickG Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 When I heard about Aquaman being included in a Batman set, I figured Black Manta was an obvious choice to be the villain. However, they went with Mr. Freeze. Yeesh. It seems DC assumes nobody can make the mental leap to appreciate a character other than Batman or Superman. Meanwhile, Tony Stark has become a household name, and Marvel's next movie features a machine-gun toting, talking raccoon. That is a fair assumption. Casuals do not know who the Black Manta is. Therefore it would sell less. Yeah, some of us would love some of the more obscure characters but that's just in reality not the smartest business move. Quote
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