Ragnarök Now Redux - Day Five

[MagPiesRUs]

/ Day One / Day Two / Day Three / Day Four /

Rurik the Bastard (Rick) was resting in the halls of Valhalla, tired after a hard day shrooming.

He had shroomed so long and shroomed so obscenely, he was worn out and slept upon the tables keenly.

Rurik didn't notice the shadowy figure that was walking on the table - a severe breach of table etiquette.

The figure raised their sword...

Kablammo! Rurik was dead.

The figure quickly escaped into the night, leaving Rurik's corpse and shrooms behind.

As morning came, the rest of the einherjar crowded into the hall.

They were shocked to find that Rurik the Bastard had been murdered. He was a loyal member of the Einherjar.

To make matters worse, Harald revealed to the group that Dagstyrr the Fool (Darkdragon) was also one of the Einherjar.

As Harald assumed the throne in Valhalla, the remaining einherjar came to the realisation that this could very well be their last day. Ragnarök was rapidly approaching...

Players

Non-Playable Characters:

Harald

Thor

Living Players (10):

Finn the Squinter (fhomess)

Chief Mursi (CorneliusMurdock)

Canute Grey-Bush (CallMePie)

Patrekr the Red (Palathadric)

Wilhalm Bloodaxe (WhiteFang)

Snotra Carrotface (Scubacarrot)

Helga Pudding-Head (Hinckley)

Lefsi Red-Shirt (LegoDad)

Baulf (Bob)

Naemr Sledgehammer (Captain Nemo)

Dead Players (12):

Petr Half-Troll (Piratedave84) - Einherjar - convicted, Day One

Tumi "Tumius Aximus" (Trumpetking) - Einherjar - killed, Day One

Kolgrima the Deep-Minded (Kristel) - Einherjar - murdered, Night One

Chlodochar (Captain Genaro) - Einherjar - murdered, Night One

Mist (Mencot) - Einherjar - murdered, Night One

Sigrid (Sisco) - Einherjar - mod-killed, Day Two

Jarni Child-Sparer (jamesn) - Einherjar - murdered, Night Two

Gofraid the Foog (Fugazi) - Einherjar - murdered, Night Two

Dufa the Godless (def) - Servant of Loki - convicted, Day Three

Wary the Black (Waterbrick Down) - Neutral - murdered, Night Three

Dagstyrr the Fool (Darkdragon) - Einherjar - convicted, Day Four

Rurik the Bastard (Rick) - Einherjar - murdered, Night Four

Rules

1. Each player will be given a character to play, who will be aligned with either the Einherjar or the Servants of Loki. To win the game, the Einherjar must kill off all the Servants of Loki, while the Servants of Loki must outnumber the Einherjar. Neutral characters will have their victory conditions outlined in their role.

2. Each day you will be able to vote to lynch a player. Voting should be done in the following format; Vote: Character (Player). Similarly, unvoting is to be done in the format; Unvote: Character (Player). No other format will be accepted. A majority vote is required to lynch a player.

3. A game day will last for 72 hours. You may not vote in the first 24 hours. After the day has concluded, a night stage will commence, which will last a maximum of 48 hours. Night actions must be sent to the host in the first 24 hours of the night stage.

4. The alignment of lynched players, as well as those that died during the night, will be revealed at the beginning of the next day.

5. You may not quote or pretend to quote anything sent to or from you in PM with the game host. This includes all the details of your character and role, as well as any night action results. Role claims and reporting of night action results are acceptable, but in your own words only. Do not attempt to use the structure of your role PM to your advantage.

6. Do not play the game outside the thread. Similarly, do not post out of character inside the thread; you must always play the role given to you. Game tactics and roles may only be discussed in the game thread or via PM with other players. Private discussion is done at your own risk and should be treated as part of the game.

7. If you are dead, you may not post in thread or discuss the game with any of the players. Any information you had becomes void and must not be passed on.

8. You may not edit your posts. Editing your post on three separate occasions will result in a mod-kill.

9. You must post in every day thread. Failure to do so will result in a mod-kill.

10. If you encounter a problem or have a question, please contact the host via PM.

[CorneliusMurdock]

What the hell?

[Hinckley]

!!!

I seem to share my top suspect with most of you. Dagstyr made a claim to me in private that I don't think is true. Here's the sequence of events:

• He contacts me saying that he's quiet out of fear of being lynched early like in other games.
  
• The situation occurs with Lefsi and Finn. I try to sort it out. Nemo brings forth his info publicly.
  
• Dagstyr asks me who needs protection the most that night.
  
• I ask him if he can counterclaim a protector role.
  
• He remains cryptic but states that we might have more than one if they are different.
  
• I later ask if he can protect someone that night.
  
• He asks about the target I gave him.
  
• Night passes. No townies die. Hooray!
  
• He tells me that he did protect the target and goes on to claim one-shot bodyguard.
  

Not only is the claim suspicious (we have yet to hear of any other one shot actions) but the way in which he claimed is suspicious. He seemed to be fishing for info on people I had been talking to more than anything. Together with his behavior or lack thereof in thread that we all find suspicious, I think he should be our lynch today.

Vote: Dagstyrr the Fool (Darkdragon)

As for my other two suspicions, I'd have to give Baulf second place. He seems to speak only to prove that he's not being quiet.

Third place is Patrekr. His behavior in thread and insistence that we were making a mistake with Dufa is odd. I'm not sure what to make of it.

So, there was no reason to lie about having a one-shot bodyguard. Did she elaborate on how she ended up with just a one-shot? Was that her entire role or did someone give it to her?

I'm really surprised she was Town.

Since Rurik didn't appear on anyone's suspicions list, I think it's safe to assume our vig is dead. Maybe that's why they targeted Rurik, since nobody suspected him. Let's not list our top three suspicions today, OK? Or we could just draw targets on people instead.

[CorneliusMurdock]

Dagstyr never said that anyone gave him the one shot. I think we can assume that he started with it.

My head's still reeling from that. I can't believe it.

[CorneliusMurdock]

Good news, everyone! The investigator came back with a scum result.

Finn the Squinter is a Servant!

[Hinckley]

That should make today's vote easy.

The only downside is this will now be the third day with no voting pattern to analyze.

[WhiteFang]

I don't get it, how could we even get it wrong! Oh my gosh...

[Scubacarrot]

Good news, everyone! The investigator came back with a scum result.

Finn the Squinter is a Servant!

Then we should have known that since the night. Why do we hear that now, and from you?

[Hinckley]

Then we should have known that since the night. Why do we hear that now, and from you?

I can't answer for Mursi, but I imagine announcing it during the night might have caused the Scum to shift their Night Actions. If they can swap their killing ability around, that would alert them to not use Finn. If Naemr wanted a good block target last night, Finn would've been the best bet, but not if the investigation result was announced when the sun set.

[Scubacarrot]

Hm. Not convinced.

This could very well be a make or break for the scum, 10 people left, say there were 5 or 6 scum, mislynch would mean instant victory, for 6, mislynch would mean instant victory if scum can make their night kill, which they probably will be able to.

Maybe I'm just being too careful, but the way this went down is not exactly kosher.

Maybe it's better to lay everything out in the open now. Remember that today's revelation came from the guy that had apparantly sorted the issue with the same person earlier.

And "shifting their kill ability around"? That's positively rare enough that that should not be anyone's concern wether to do or not do certain things.

[Hinckley]

And "shifting their kill ability around"? That's positively rare enough that that should not be anyone's concern wether to do or not do certain things.

I disagree with that. Alerting them that one of them was caught before the Night Actions were finalized would be rash, in my opinion. If Mursi knew, I assume the Town PRs adjusted their Night Actions accordingly. Maybe he can confirm for us. I actually think the revelation could've waited longer.

I do agree that the Scum may only need one mislynch to win this. But, I don't think we should panic and lay everything out in the open. What are you proposing? If there's an investigation result on the table that gives us a Scum, we definitely have a tomorrow. Finn knew Jarni had a Night Action. The investigator got a Scum result on him. If we caught a Scum but reveal all of the Night Actions, we could lynch a Servant but then lose the game in the night.

Remember that today's revelation came from the guy that had apparantly sorted the issue with the same person earlier.

I don't follow this. Can you elaborate?

[Scubacarrot]

I don't follow this. Can you elaborate?

Mursi 'sorted' the issues with Lefsi and Finn earlier, correct?

I disagree with that. Alerting them that one of them was caught before the Night Actions were finalized would be rash, in my opinion. If Mursi knew, I assume the Town PRs adjusted their Night Actions accordingly. Maybe he can confirm for us. I actually think the revelation could've waited longer.

I do agree that the Scum may only need one mislynch to win this. But, I don't think we should panic and lay everything out in the open. What are you proposing? If there's an investigation result on the table that gives us a Scum, we definitely have a tomorrow. Finn knew Jarni had a Night Action. The investigator got a Scum result on him. If we caught a Scum but reveal all of the Night Actions, we could lynch a Servant but then lose the game in the night.

How can we lose in the night? The scum can't kill twice. And sure, perhaps the town PRs adjusted their night actions, I'm hearing so much talk of people being confirmed, but who exactly? I'm not sure anymore that's what's happening. I'm proposing that we at least get a sense of where we are at, that meaning that we get a list of who is confirmed in some way and who is yet to be at least, don't need anyone's roles for now.

From what I've heard it'd be really weird if that number of supposedly confirmed people would be less than six, then I'd be wondering what the Night Action Town Block thing was doing, and if there's more than that, clearly there's something wrong as well.

[Hinckley]

Mursi 'sorted' the issues with Lefsi and Finn earlier, correct?

Ah, yes. I see.

How can we lose in the night? The scum can't kill twice. And sure, perhaps the town PRs adjusted their night actions, I'm hearing so much talk of people being confirmed, but who exactly? I'm not sure anymore that's what's happening. I'm proposing that we at least get a sense of where we are at, that meaning that we get a list of who is confirmed in some way and who is yet to be at least, don't need anyone's roles for now.

I don't mean we'd lose tonight but if we told them who was who, considering there are likely 4 or 5 more of them, they would have quite an arsenal of Actions to cause us major damage at night, so let's not give them a paint-by-numbers for Rangnarok. Even telling them who is verified tells them exactly what Townies they can try to get lynched and which ones to kill at Night.

From what I've heard it'd be really weird if that number of supposedly confirmed people would be less than six, then I'd be wondering what the Night Action Town Block thing was doing, and if there's more than that, clearly there's something wrong as well.

I agree and I believe all of the people involved in the Town block have basic counting skills as well. If there were a problem with the quantity of confirmed Townies, I'm sure one of the PRs would tell you about it since you were one of the ones cleared by them. But it sounds like the investigator got a Scum result, so I see no reason not to follow it. The Town block just turned up a result we can work with.

Do you have reason to believe that Finn is not Scum? What else would you propose we do today?

[Scubacarrot]

That's easy isn't it, turning it around. The town block found a result, let's test it. If we lose, we lose.

Guess we'll wait for what Finn has to say.

I don't mean we'd lose tonight but if we told them who was who, considering there are likely 4 or 5 more of them, they would have quite an arsenal of Actions to cause us major damage at night, so let's not give them a paint-by-numbers for Rangnarok. Even telling them who is verified tells them exactly what Townies they can try to get lynched and which ones to kill at Night.

You refuse to realize that none of that stuff will matter if we lose tonight.

[Hinckley]

Guess we'll wait for what Finn has to say.

Are you expecting a confession?

You refuse to realize that none of that stuff will matter if we lose tonight.

I'm not refusing anything. I don't understand why you seem so suspicious of the same investigator that cleared you. And at the same time, aren't acknowledging how much damage revealing everything can do to the Town, if Finn is Scum.

If you think Finn is Town and someone in the Town block is Scum or the investigation was tampered with, I don't see where you're getting that from. Tell us what's making you think this.

If the investigator is to be trusted, I can't see why the Scum would've framed Finn, considering he wasn't on anybody's list of suspicions. He was on Patrekr's, but he listed Lefsi as more suspicious of the two.

[CMP]

Cannot believe Dagstyrr came up town.

At this point it looks like one foul-up means we lose. We have an investigation result. I don't see any practical way of going forward but lynching Finn. If the game goes on, we can work from there, so I don't think giving the scum a list of who to kill a good idea in the long-term. And I don't see how it would help at all anyway, Snotra.

[Scubacarrot]

There is no long term.

Are you expecting a confession?

No?

[LegoDad]

Mursi 'sorted' the issues with Lefsi and Finn earlier, correct?

How can we lose in the night? The scum can't kill twice. And sure, perhaps the town PRs adjusted their night actions, I'm hearing so much talk of people being confirmed, but who exactly? I'm not sure anymore that's what's happening. I'm proposing that we at least get a sense of where we are at, that meaning that we get a list of who is confirmed in some way and who is yet to be at least, don't need anyone's roles for now.

From what I've heard it'd be really weird if that number of supposedly confirmed people would be less than six, then I'd be wondering what the Night Action Town Block thing was doing, and if there's more than that, clearly there's something wrong as well.

The only sorting out that was done was figuring out what Jarni had told Finn and I and to see if there were any differences and if we had told anybody our information. We both knew what Jarni's role was, we both said we hadn't said anything to anybody. I knew I wasn't lying, but it appears Finn was as the only other option was that the scum got lucky Night 1 and role copped Jarni or killed him on a whim. Which do you think is more likely?

I get a strong sense that you're trying to save your buddy, Ms. Godmother.

[CorneliusMurdock]

Yes, Snotra. I did attempt to diffuse the situation between Lefsi and Finn before anything was revealed to scum. Apparently that was pointless. Finn was good, though. I thought that scum would have conitinued the discussion in thread anyway just so that the information he was privvy to would become public.

Instead he used it as an oppurtunity to try to get in with a forming town block. He wasn't trusted with any information, though.

I had a feeling about him after something he said yesterday and asked the investigator to target him. And we have the result.

I don't get why you expect the result to be made public the instant we got it, Snotra. We couldn't have lynched him last night. All it would have done was let the scum know we were on to him. What is it that you want from me?

[Scubacarrot]

Hm. More security that we won't lose instantly tonight (which you can't give) and more than one dinky's investigator's result. (which we don't have) But I can understand that we're not going to get it. I've said this to someone in private, and I'll repeat it here: What we have is enough to at least question the to some crystal clear course of action.

I'm not suggesting we lynch the investigator or someone else instead, that'd be dumb, but I'm super suspicious that this is a ploy, play, gambit if you will.

[Captain Nemo]

Guess all this shows is being an inactive town only helps the scum.

I'm all for voting for Finn, since we have the investigation result--I trust the investigator and their results. It's the best lead we have, and more "solid" then any other reason we can come up with; we are taking a bigger chance of lynching the wrong person by disregarding these results.

[CorneliusMurdock]

If it is a ploy, and Finn turns up innocent, it wasn't mine. If we should survive such a thing, I'd invite you to lynch the investigator. You know who they are.

I don't see what choice we have.

[CorneliusMurdock]

Quiet people, we need you guys to pull your weight here. If any of you are loyal, do something. I've had enough of fellow townies being handicaps to our survival. Snotra's right about one thing, this is down to the wire.

[Bob]

I also trust that the investigator's results are accurate. If Finn's results come back as loyal, though, we should really take a look at the other people that this investigator has looked into.

It is one of the more solid leads we have seen and looking into it is likely to reveal more information.

[fhomess]

WTF! Dagstyrr was town and now there's a bogus scum result on me? Either someone is lying or someone has framed me. It's amazing to me the extent to which people are so quick to dismiss this. Snotra seems to be the only one with any sense of a level head around here. I have worked hard to provide those I trusted with information and to help us move forward in catching the Servants.

That should make today's vote easy.

The only downside is this will now be the third day with no voting pattern to analyze.

Right, this is really a big downside for someone who hasn't really done any vote analysis anyway. Nice try, thanks.

Cannot believe Dagstyrr came up town.

This is exactly the behavior that you've been calling out people for daily.

The only sorting out that was done was figuring out what Jarni had told Finn and I and to see if there were any differences and if we had told anybody our information. We both knew what Jarni's role was, we both said we hadn't said anything to anybody. I knew I wasn't lying, but it appears Finn was as the only other option was that the scum got lucky Night 1 and role copped Jarni or killed him on a whim. Which do you think is more likely?

I get a strong sense that you're trying to save your buddy, Ms. Godmother.

And you're awfully quick to ignore the possibility that I've been set up somehow. You were very eager to accept the idea that the SK had killed Jarni. Mursi was, too.

Instead he used it as an oppurtunity to try to get in with a forming town block.

I did nothing of the sort! I provided my take on things so that you could guide the people you were talking to based on as much information as possible. I never made any effort to be added to the town block or demand that any information be provided in reciprocation.

I had a feeling about him after something he said yesterday and asked the investigator to target him. And we have the result.

I don't know what you're referring to from yesterday, Mursi, but whatever you've been reading into from then was clearly misguided.

I don't get why you expect the result to be made public the instant we got it, Snotra. We couldn't have lynched him last night. All it would have done was let the scum know we were on to him. What is it that you want from me?

This I will agree with. Holding an investigation result until the night has passed is a rational choice.

The two obvious ways in which this result could have happened is if the investigator is lying or if I was framed. I know the investigator supposedly cleared Snotra and one other person. Is that person still around? I need to go back and figure out what they did on Day 1. Did they successfully clear someone that's still alive then, too?