Rick

If it's not too sensitive info (i.e., revealing a role we have that the scum might not yet know about), what was the result the role cop got on night 1? This perhaps sheds some more light on the type of results the role cop gets.

That's odd reasoning. We don't know the reliability of Akira's source and the vig could always take out Isamu at night. If we would vote out Isamu and let the vig take care of Minoru instead, he would still be able to block a Yakuza with a night action.

A goon is a 'vanilla' scum, but that's not really a role (I don't think role cops normally confirm alignments).

Looks like a moderator merged it into this thread. Searching your own posts would have helped find it.

It seems unlikely that there is more than one blocker on our side (and even then, they would probably have a different MO) and the idea of a neutral blocker seems highly unlikely. Also, as targets seems to know when they're blocked, I think we would have known by now if there were more than two blockers. Vote: Minoru (VolcanicPanic)

This is not what's happening.

That's not a theory. No one is saying that they know for sure. It's just the most likely explanation, unless you have evidence that suggests the opposite of course. And you should know there is only one way to find out for sure whether she's a mutineer or not. Yes, that's possible and we discussed that possibility immediately after the sun rose. This is certainly something that warrants further investigation. I'm just afraid the case against you is much more solid.

Yeah, and the same can be said for Tadao. How can you just 'trust' someone with your role on day 1 if you're our blocker? It indeed seems likely now that the other blocker is a mutineer. I too was at least expecting either Ichirou or Tadao to be a mutineer. But you were jumping to conclusions that it must have been the scum blocker, which would clear you of course. That there seems to be no kill by the mutineers last night, actually incriminates you if it was Tadao that blocked you after all (typically the blocker is still able to block effectively before being killed).

Really cute little vans. I really like that you managed to fit the sliding door design in a relatively compact vehicle and still made great use of the interior space. The wheels look a little small compared to the rest of the vehicle though. Perhaps this size tire would fit better, although it probably would require a lot of structural changes. That can't be healthy.

Indeed, it shouldn't.

I don't think anything was going to save you much earlier today, so I'm really wondering why you waited so long with this claim.

I'm glad you see that and I'm glad you understand our suspicion of you. You still haven't addressed my earlier concerns and I guess you're not going to. Yet, you still feel the need to throw in some more accusations. Thanks, your efforts for this town will not be forgotten in case you turn up as orange snot. I guess not much. But I'm sure you understand we simply can't risk letting the potential Godfather off the hook. Surely when we investigate you, you come up town, and when we track you, you will not do nothing at night.

That's what you've been asked repeatedly: Why? What useful information about Nobuo and Norio was to be gained from coming forward with your 'blocker story'. Why bring it forward when, when questions are being asked, you decide that it's not safe to share too much information publicly? There are obvious gaps in your 'blocker story'. You haven't really taken away any of my concerns with your replies so far.

That's the kind of reasoning we need. Me either. If we assume he's town, sure, his behaviour might be explained by reference to his 'mentor', but at the same time I wonder what made people claim to him. It certainly cannot be his behaviour yesterday. I also wonder why he came forward publicly with his 'blocker story' that's full of holes. Just to try and appear trustworthy and get more people to claim to him? If he's a mutineer, it's certainly a very risky strategy to be fishing for information and roles with so many people (even though I haven't been approached by him). This is something I'm not so sure a mutineer would be willing to do, unless, as has been suggested before, he's immune to investigative actions at night because he's the godfather of the mutineers. Considering this is the only good explanation I see for his behaviour and given we probably have no other way to verify this but to lynch Ichirou, I will: Vote: Ichirou (Tamamono)

Lovely build Izzy. I saw this on flickr and figured you must have posted it on EB as well. Nice colourscheme and I like all the trans-bricks used for the windows. I really like all the little details you put it, it shows you have great eye for detail. No idea what you're talking about, I just like it ok?

... who, if that is true, is not going to win and will be around till the very end making silly remarks while we try to root out the mutineers. Oh the joy.

Siegfried Sweating in the hot Sydney sun. But great work everyone.

You can't. You have to save them to a local storage device (harddisk, flashdrive) and then upload them to an image host. See my signature for a link to the tutorials.

Can you help me understand what you were trying to achieve with your 'blocker story'? I've been going over what you had to say while I was busy studying, but you haven't really filled the obvious gaps in your story now, have you? I'm used to you thinking more about your 'theories'. And this one obviously does not make any sense at all. This is certainly something we have to keep in mind. Ichirou is very outspoken. But if he's the godfather and he doesn't have an action to perform at night, he doesn't have to fear being discovered at night and any investigative actions will only seem to 'clear' him. I'd be very careful giving someone with such a dubious record too much information. I really don't think he's the most obvious person to be sharing information with and I therefore find it unlikely that he apparently 'found' so many people with night actions already. But surely you must understand you're not in a position to be our leader? I would think twice before I would start fishing for roles or information when I'm not perceived as trustworthy. You should - and probably also do - realise that. Oh, is that the way you go about? You 'suspect' them in the hope they spill the beans to you?

No one is pushing you for more information. We all know how important it is to keep some information classified. People are merely pointing out inconsistencies in your story.

But you clearly implied you're talking to more than one person and your 'blocker story' relies on what more than one person has been saying to you: I don't think the blockers can choose how to block their targets, let alone that the scum blocker knows the town blocker's MO before night 1. If you don't believe that the two blockers use the same MO, it can only say something about the truthfulness of their target's claims of being blocked.

That's all you have to say for yourself? But aren't we too easily assuming there is only one blocker on our side? One of the blockers may have been trying to protect either father Nobuo or Norio and blocked them in the process (jailkeeper). I wouldn't dismiss that as unlikely considering the size of our family.

It stood out to me as well and it could well be a response to her being hesitant to vote for Yasu earlier yesterday and not wanting to be one of the late voters who obviously changed their opinion Dear mother, you may have seen me review what was said yesterday, and it seems like I got my analytical abilities from you, as these two clearly stood out to me as well. But also, let's not forget the very 'helpful' contributions by Shiro yesterday.

I must say I had my doubts. I was torn between her just not understanding how to act when she came under suspicion and her really being a mutineer. Turns out it was both. I agree, we should have a good look back at what was said yesterday. We might have taken out the mutineer's role cop, but not necessarily. It may be that role cop claim came after she had a chance to talk to her fellow mutineers (one of them may be the role cop), but I think it's more likely Yasu was the role cop, because she knew she was likely to be 'verified' by being tracked or having her target watched.

I didn't know I was Minoru and Yasu's child. *runs towards Momoe*